Technical lakewood scatter shield, need help with flywheel

I bought a 1963 Comet project car. It came with a 1984 Ford 351 Windsor motor, Saginaw 4spd trans and a Lakewood 15205 ****ter shield. My problem is I don't know what size flywheel it needs, 157,164 teeth ?
I called Lakewood and the "tech" said it was discontinued and he did not know what size flywheel either. Which I found hard to believe but.. I don't know why the previous owner went with a GM transmission with a Ford motor either but since I already have this I want to get it to work.
I have the rest of the clutch ***embly figured out but can seem to find the flywheel size.
The Lakewood ****ter shield converts the GM transmission to a Ford motor.
If anyone could help me with this it would be much appreciated.
Thank you,
Donn

 

the starter bolts to the shield, right? bolt in a starter, measure from the inner part of the tooth on the starter drive gear, to the center of the ****tershield bolt pattern. Or put it on the engine and use the crank flange to help you measure. Do you have the plate that goes between the engine and ****tershield? if so that would probably help with the measuring, also.

or just use this guy's knowledge...

http://www.mustangtek.com/sidebyside/SmallblockFordflywheelsize.html

 

I do not have a starter yet. The car was an automatic so I am putting the 4spd together. So far I have the transmission, Saginaw, pressure plate, throw out bearing, disc and Lakewood 15205 ****ter shield. I do have the plate but I don't know what starter I need . My thought was to figure out the flywheel then get a starter to match it. I cannot find any info on what flywheel fit the 15205 shield.

 

did you look at the link I posted? there are measurements off the starter hole and bolt holes to help you figure it out. I thought the starters were the same, the only difference is the locations of the bolt holes for it need to match the flywheel size.

btw pictures of your stuff would help folks help you figure it out.

 

Hey Don, you're in good hands here with Jim's advice. The Lakewood 15205 has 2 patterns for the starter, see the link, hole F.
http://www.jegs.com/InstallationInstructions/600/620/620-15205.pdf
Starters from a '65 - '73 Ford Mustang are supposed to fit it. What flywheel do you have now?

 

How bout some pictures of the car. It will be a tight fit with that motor and shock towers(if they are still present). It has and can be done. Headers are very hard to find for this combo.

 

YES, Jim's link/info did the job. I need the 164 28oz 11 1/2 setup.
Jim thank you so much!!
Newguyoldford
A set of headers came with the car. It does still have the shock towers. I am planning to notch them for now for some extra room. The plan is, when I get the money, is to install a speedway straight axle at which time I will cut most of the inner well out. I am going to try and post some pics never on this site so not sure if I can figure it out, being a old guy myself...

 

Where are you located?

 

Here's mine with the center rib in the shock tower cut back and plated

 

Maybe not 11-1/2" clutch, probably 11"..What spline is the trans?

 

Your water pump pulley is on backwards

 

I'm from Long Island, yeah that pulley would need a pretty funky belt! Do you have any pictures of your car with the motor installed? Your tower is basically cut the same way I am planning on doing mine.

 

The spine is a 10 spline

 

You might want to rethink those valve covers.

 

Lakewood ****ter shields come with 2 bolt patterns for starters. Just pick the size of flywheel you want to run. 157 for clutches up to 10 1/2 inch and 164 for 11 inch clutches. Also you need to pick a flywheel that matches the crank you have. There are 2 different weights, 28 ounce for early and 50 something for 302s

 

He's around the corner from me, the car is actually very nice and a good start to a cool project. Not like the jig saw puzzle I started with... missing 25% of the pieces...

 

I'd rethink the Saginaw trans if you want to drive like me. I'm kinda hard on Transmissions.

 

My other car, truck , hot rod..

 

Did you put the scoop on or is it a fibergl*** hood?

 

I put it on. I found an old teardrop from the 60's at Carlisle and put it on myself. I'm not aware of any comet hoods for our years that are available in fibergl***. Heck, I'm looking for a fibergl*** hood for a 55 ford that they used to make and can't find one. It's a stock profile hood. The Fairlane Co. used to make them but I guess they are no longer in business. Wish I could find one that someone took off or has stashed to help my buddy get his 55 done. He has the rest of the fibergl*** front end stuff(fenders and radiator support pieces) just not a hood.

 

Looks great really gives the car the old hot rod look. I'm going to cut my shock towers this weekend, any advise or things I should look out for?

 

I used a 4" grinder with cutting disc. I cut right in the "bevel" where the bulge starts out towards the engine. Finished it off with 60 grit sanding discs. Heck of a lot easier with the upper control arm out seeing how the two mounting bolts and nuts are out of the way. One word of advice.....they are not a true 90 degrees even if you square them off right above the motor mount like I did. The back of the rib is back further than the front of the rib. I lined mine with masking tape once I had them ground flat and then took a razor blade and cut inside the rib to make a template to transfer to the metal. That's when I found out that the bottom of the shock tower rib above the motor mount in not a true 90 degrees to the shock tower itself. Harder to explain than it actually is. I left some extra metal at the bottom so I could grind it flush with the part above the motor mount before welding. I started tacking it from the top and "m***aged" it to the shape working down with tacks every couple inches. It wasn't that hard once I figured that my already bent 90 was in the right place but needed a little tweaking to sit flush with the back corner. You can see from my picture that the bend does not look straight across.......because it isn't. Good luck. BART.

 

Thanks Bart, what motor and transmission are you planning for your car? It's cool to see someone else building a 63 comet. Don't see to many. Are you restoring or going hot rod?
Donn

 

Mine is a 62 sedan...pretty much the same as your 63. Mine has a GT40P 302, TFS stage II cam, Edelbrock intake, Holley street avenger 670, Nitrous express 200 shot plate system, Ford Motorsports BD11a supercharger, mustang T5 with front shift conversion, cut and narrowed Explorer 8.8 31 spline 3.73 taction lock, electric power steering but otherwise will appear stock . Cal Tracs and maybe a mini tub in the future. This is just a play car for my dad. I have others to go fast in. I have some odds and ends if you need some stuff for comets. BART.

 

Sounds like a pretty fast play car..

 

Got them cutoff today. I see what you mean about about them being uneven. I still have finish them but not to bad of a job. The metal was thicker then I thought. It was a little rough with a harbor freight cut off wheel.

 

That's what I was using also. Hopefully some of my advice helped. Can't wait to see you progress. BART.