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Technical Shipping lacquer paint to Canada?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 65Val, Apr 13, 2016.

  1. 65Val
    Joined: Aug 31, 2010
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    Hi All. I can't seem to find the correct interior paint for my '67 Dodge Dart in Canada. It is apparently a "Suede Finish Lacquer" (very flat "Copper Brown Metallic"). I was wondering about getting some shipped from the US. What experience is out there regarding this?
     
  2. 37 caddy
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    Have never had any shipped yet,but a loophole is that furniture refinishers can legally buy the stuff in canada,it is not VOC compliant,thus it is not "legal".I would try that avenue first,or maybe try a couple of paint suppliers in your area and see if they have any ideas. Harvey
     
  3. I suppose that a semi flat enamel would look the same unless the car needs to be an exact resto. 15 years ago I would have offered to ship to you but now with all the hype I don't see that being a very good idea.
     
  4. john worden
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    Suppliers of the paint should know how to ship it.
    I recently advertised quarts of lacquer here and found that UPS wouldn't touch it, FedEx would if you jumped through all the hoops and VIOLA! the USPS would ship it ground.
    I can't say it will work for you but I would look into it.
     
  5. K13
    Joined: May 29, 2006
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    There are no rules against shipping lacquer into Canada or using it as a individual person. Even shops can still use it with the right paperwork to do restorations. You should have zero problems getting it.

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  6. nickleone
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    I am in the shipping business.
    That paint is considered hazardous material.
    The shipper has to be certified to ship hazmat internationally.
    Then you will have to pay duties and taxes and possible brokerage fees.
    Buy it from a paint shop just across the border, drive down and pick it up.
    If you are buying a lot of parts from the USA consider a PRIVATE MAIL BOX (PMB) in the US for those shipments.

    Nick
     
  7. K13
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    Try a company like TCP Global in San Diego. I know many people (myself included) who have had zero issues with having them shipping paint to Canada including lacquer.
     
  8. 65Val
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    Thanks all for your replies. Local paint shop can't duplicate the color and finish I need. I have a message into TCP-Global to see if they mix to your paint code, ***ure me it will match my original interior color (Lucite 9349LH - Flat) and surface finish (Suede), and if the paint is available in spray cans, or do I have to mix and spray with a gun. I also have a US shipping address in Blaine,WA, and a freight forwarder to bring it to Victoria
     
  9. K13
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    I would be amazed if anyone will guarantee you a match on a 50 year old colour with out mixing it by eye to a sample of what is in your car way too many variables to guarantee a colour match.

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  10. 65Val
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    Won't be much good to me if it doesn't match....why would I go to the trouble to order mixed paint if it won't match what I have here? I already have paint that doesn't match.......
     
    Last edited: Apr 14, 2016
  11. indyjps
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    Are you trying to spot in existing paint, or shooting the entire interior?
     
  12. 65Val
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    I changed from column shift to floor shift. Trying to paint the new column same as the old column,to match the current interior color.
     
  13. rdscotty
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    I'll give you a guarantee .............

    that it will NOT match.
     
  14. 65Val
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    I'm open to suggestions then........
     
  15. Repaint all the interior parts.
     
  16. 65Val
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    OK...(edit) "useful suggestions........."
     
  17. indyjps
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    Youre trying to match new paint to old faded paint. Body shops have scanners to get close, then adjust paint from there.

    If you wanna do this at home, I'd suggest ordering the color matching paint, have some white and maybe yellow on hand of the same type of paint and flattening agent. Try various test panels adjust for fade with white, flatten a bit, may even try different primer colors to try to get a perfect match.

    Another option, this is 1967 copper interior paint, call up cl***ic industries and discuss color.
    Try different test panels with different primers light grey, red oxide, black to see if you can get a close match. Adjust sheen with rubbing compound after dry.
    http://www.cl***icindustries.com/product/mopar/parts/pp620.html

    You might also try polishing the existing dash paint, 3M imperial hand glaze is great for bringing back dead paint, apply by hand. It may not be as flat as you think.
     
  18. Blue One
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    Re- painting all the interior parts to get a match is a useful suggestion.
     
  19. joeycarpunk
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    Entire repaint ensures everything will match and you can use a different paint then lacquer.
     
  20. rdscotty
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    Are there any other colors in the interior/ upholstery that you can pick up on? Like a contrasting color in a two tone seat? You could paint the column in the contrasting color and that way it will not look like you were trying to match the color (but couldn't.)

    What everyone is saying is that the color can be exactly matched, but not by a guy at home. The original color would have to be scanned, a painter would then have to spend time tinting and spraying out test cards until he got the color right, and then would have to play with getting the right sheen on the finish. This would all take time and money.

    One other thing to consider is that your idea of a good color match might be different than what someone else would consider a good color match. For some people, close is good enough. Your expectations factor in as well. If it is going to bother you every time you sit in the car, then you need it as close as possible. If you just want it to p*** muster and not look out of place if someone looks in your window for 10 seconds, then it doesn't have to be as close.
     
    Last edited: Apr 15, 2016
  21. 32v
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    send a small painted piece to tcp global ,they will match it for you . I have done it for a 56 chev crocas yellow as there were 2 variants
     
  22. I thought so...
     
  23. 65Val
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  24. 65Val
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    Yes, it would be useful suggestion, if my interior was all out, but I just got finished putting it back in,so I'd like to avoid taking it all out again. Besides, the windshield has to come out to remove the metal dash frame.
     
  25. HotrodHR
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    Suggestions:

    1. Paint column a contrasting color, unless you're going for concourse it might look fine.
    or
    2. Remove glove box door, or some other easily removable part painted the "correct" color and take to paint store for match. If you use clear coat you can add flattening agent.
    or
    3. Pull column and send with glovebox door or other painted part to body shop, or restorer and have them paint.
    or
    4. As already suggested repaint the entire interior...
     
  26. olscrounger
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    Good info--I like #3
     
  27. 65Val
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    1. I'd like it to match. A different column color is going to "stick out like a sore thumb".
    2.Done that. Gave them the ash tray. Paint shop here can't match color or texture correctly...working on 3rd spray can and still no-go.
    3. Possibility, but rather get correct paint and have it pro-applied here...read:cheaper!
    4. Not really feasible, as outlined above.

    I've found a few contacts that I've messaged in hopes of getting the correct paint.

    Apparently, "instrument-specialties " has (or had) the proper stuff...they have an EBay auction going right now for some. Also, a guy named Mike Mancini of "American Muscle Car Restoration" might as well. I'm waiting for replies.
     

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