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Hot Rods Transporter burnt up clutch!

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by solo_909, Apr 24, 2016.

  1. solo_909
    Joined: Apr 9, 2006
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    I'm not a salesmen, I do the marketing. Yeah well didn't know since I've never done this before.
     
  2. Truck64
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  3. Hot Rod Cowboy
    Joined: Jan 2, 2010
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    If there were really 5 guys from the selling shop standing around watching this guy smoke the clutch trying to load it and no one said something to stop it or bothered to wip out a phone and video, I'm afraid you're probably SOL.

    Why would you just stand idly by and watch someone damage a car you just sold and know the new buyer is going to have to dispute, either with you or the transport? If I were the seller, I'd have tried to stop and talk to the guy and if that got no where, I'd have damn sure wiped out my phone and videod it just so the new buyer didn't try to hold me accountable. Just sayin'.
     
  4. treb11
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    As many transporter loads of wrecked cars as I see, they didn't have s f'n winch?

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  5. Vimtage Iron
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    I see this on here once in a while,or the question pops up who do I get to transport a car,generally the answer is use the guys here on the HAMB, they come very well recommended, I don't know what their prices are but I would guess they are not cheap for a haul from the midwest to the coast but they'll get it there nicely.
    If I have to have a car moved I'll call Horseless Carriage, last time Dave couldn't get out here and recommend a friend of his, I had at that time a 1924 Caddy that was bought at auction in Auburn Ind and needed to be here,It was/is a touring car from Glacier National park, Terry is running the same style of rig that HC and P***port use,at the time a real sharp looking Freightliner, now a very sharp looking Peterbilt,very neat very clean, he tied my haul in with another west coast car and the cost to me was 1800.00 $, I think that is be pretty reasonable, so using Uship or flyby night outfits doesn't fit into the equation not when you have horror stories like the ones above,use the gents here on the HAMB or call the big boys.
     
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  6. reagen
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    It wasn't that hard to read.
     
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  7. fuzzface
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    You still don't know how old those videos actually are. they might have been made months or years ago before he was ever thinking about selling the vehicle.

    I saw on ebay a listing for some old packards and thought I recognized them. it dawn on me when I noticed the old truck in the back ground on the one picture. I brought that truck from that guy. the problem was that I brought that truck 12 years earlier. he was using at least 12 year old pictures to sell them. I drove past them on purpose when I realize where they were and boy did they really detoriated compared to the pictures on ebay.
     
  8. Truck64
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    Nah, you're right, and I even read all of it. But I thought of the "wall of text" picture as soon as peeps started complaining. I denounce myself.
     
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  9. Blue One
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    Yes, actually it was.
     
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  10. Hnstray
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    It wasn't easy to read either. Some people on the HAMB ridicule the "grammar police", but the fact is, reasonably decent grammar and punctuation go a long way toward improving communication/comprehension.

    Given the long history of universal education in this Country, there is no justification for defending ignorance and/or laziness in basic skills.

    Ray
     
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  11. Truck64
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    Maybe it's the "universal education" that's the problem?

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  12. Now this reply makes sense.
    The seller watched this happen, but the seller is described as being an trustworthy guy, by the buyer.
    I don't understand the logic in that thinking.
     
  13. metalman
    Joined: Dec 30, 2006
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    A couple weeks ago I was killing time hanging out in the back lot at the Me*** auction in Houstain watching them load cars onto every type of transporter there is. It did seem they usually loaded the cars backward on the top of the open carriers, I kinda thought it was to keep the hoods shut on the older cars but ??? Backing up or backing down, I really don't see either being easier.
    I also wondered how the T bucket loaded on top without a roof faired with 13" of rain coming down ;)!
    Seems to me almost every horror story come with a U-ship, lowest bid type of scenario. I don't understand why someone trust their car to these bottom feeders just to save a few bucks, some of the rigs are so bad I wouldn't trust it across town.
    As far as the OP goes, dought seriously if the shipper will do anything about the clutch, it will be real hard to prove it wasn't bad before. I drive it and see if it's really hurt, I've smoked clutches pretty bad backing loaded trucks up hills before and still got another 70,000 miles out of them.
     
  14. BigDogSS
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    Yep, the clutch could have been iffy to before the load. I used Exotic Transport enclosed many years and it went smooth as silk. This was Tampa Bay, FL to SoCal. Well worth the extra $$. The only car car I send on an open transporter is a parts car.
     
  15. Roadsir
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    Most likely loaded backwards because the ramp angle is too steep, and the front and rear overhang of the '56 made it difficult to load. In addition the lower reverse gear make it easier to get an old car up on a steep incline.

    Had the same thing on a '62 wagon I sold. The steep approach was creating a problem for front bumper clearance and rear bumper and exhaust. The driver backed it on and had one hellava time getting it loaded (it was starting to sleet to top it off). The icing was he wanted to use a J-hook to the floor boards to pull it down.

    The clutch won't be as big a deal as the clean-up you'll be faced with being on the top front. That flat paint is going to high gloss - covered in raw diesel and diesel soot from the stacks. Guy that bought my wagon had to wash the car multiple, multiple times to get it clean, it just kept oozing!

    I think the above illustrated the difference between an inexpensive open semi-hauler versus an enclosed haul. I've never paid to have a car hauled, but on the few I have sold the extra $400-600 seems like cheap insurance for people that haul cl***ic cars exclusively.
     
  16. There are 3 QUALITY transporters here on the Hamb: BenD, Racinman Rick & Myself...you would not have those issues using one of us. Check out all of our references in the Hamb O Dex section! Between the three of us, we have probably transported for over a THOUSAND Hamb members. You definitely get what you pay for!
     
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  17. To the OP

    From the image you posted it appears you chose to have your vehicle hauled
    by indirect - open - multicar transport.

    By definition your vehicle travels on an open 6 or 9 car trailer.

    It can be transferred multiple times between trailers.
    It can be unloaded - stored outside in a yard - loaded back again.

    Each time this happens it is driven.
    So - the clutch can be burned up in the process.

    If you read your transport agreement completely you will find
    you " agree " that specific & unspecific damage can occur in the
    transport of your vehicle that is deemed " acceptable " by the hauler.

    How do you avoid this ?

    Transport direct from pick up to drop off.
    Have your vehicle winched on & off the trailer.
    Talk directly to who is hauling your car.

    Since 2008 I have been on the HAMB.
    I have been an Alliance Member every year.

    About (5) years ago I switched to exclusively doing enclosed transport.

    You get what you pay for ....


    Jim


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  18. HOTRODPRIMER
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    I will only use Hamb haulers if I have anything to say about it and encourage a buyer to do the same.

    I have heard the hamb haulers want's more to haul the car than Joe Blow's fly by night discount watermelon & car hauling service.

    The clown that hauled my Deuce was a Russian,that couldn't speak a word of English,
    working for a Asian Company,it took s couple of days of them calling me trying to arrange a pickup, because their accent was so thick I couldn't understand them.

    As I pointed out the driver was Russian and he fried the clutch in my old sedan driving it up on the transport trailer.

    The man that bought my sedan was told the car was going to be hauler in a enclosed trailer,yeah right. HRP

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  19. denis4x4
    Joined: Apr 23, 2005
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    I use Reliable as they have an office in Denver. My location in Durango is nowhere near major freeways and independent haulers either are not interested or quote a price that says, "I really don't want to haul your car". Too often, when you call a hauler phone number, you're really talking to a broker.
     
  20. reagen
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    Well said !!!!
     
  21. Looks like this one has gone off the rails. You run into transporters that strip your car and others then don't give a flying **** about them and still others that are good respectable people. if your car came with the clutch burnt then change it, if pieces are missing and you can prove it take 'em to small claims court.

    This reminds me of something that I tell people all the time. I went to school several times since public school ended at grade 12. I never went for free, education costs.
     
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  22. shadams
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    Careful guys. That last time (another forum I am on) someone jumped another posters *** for grammar/periods/paragraphs/etc that was just like that, turned out the guy was a paraplegic verteran who used a computer program to type and everyone felt like **** afterward. You never know....
     
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  23. bobss396
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    Yeah, if you don't know the shipper, your car may be p***ed around like a pack of cigarettes in the prison yard before it gets to you. I was lucky and got someone to ship my in-op Ford 1800 miles for a decent price and fast. If I do it again, I'll use who I used before or go get the car myself. Road trip....
     
  24. haileyp1014
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  25. Just go to the first post and hit the report ****on. easy peazy.
     
  26. BamaMav
    Joined: Jun 19, 2011
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    Would that be Dave Sweetman? Never actually got to meet him yet, but have read a lot of the stuff he's written for various trucking magazines. Seems like the kind of person I'd trust to move my car cross country....
     
  27. Isn't it time for the car in question, with the clutch concern, to arrive at its destination ?
     
  28. Vimtage Iron
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    That would be him, he's got a lot of stories of moving cars and driving some of them with and for the owners at shows and such,quite a character, he hauled Franks trucks to the York show last year, I helped him load and unload and got an honorable mention in Landline for it.
     
  29. Ebbsspeed
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    So are hoods more likely to fly open on a transporter than they are just driving the car down the road?
     
  30. GOATROPER02
    Joined: Mar 22, 2006
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    Must not have liked the car very much..... It's for sale again already..... Or at least looks like the same 56
     

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