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English Wheels and Planishing Hammers...

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by AssGasket, Mar 17, 2006.

  1. AssGasket
    Joined: Apr 19, 2002
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    Anyone have any good plans for making their own...???

    Is is possible to make a planishing hammer using an air chisel or something like that...???
     
  2. Gambino_Kustoms
    Joined: Oct 14, 2005
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    50 chevy might be able to help you out with the wheel
     
  3. bcarlson
    Joined: Jul 21, 2005
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  4. SUHRsc
    Joined: Sep 27, 2005
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    all the olds guys have told me....
    learn with a hammer and dollie first
    that way you'll appreciate the wheel more
    maybe you already have though

    anyways...if you want i can show you my plans for a wheel
    it uses a spindle for a trailer for the lower adjustment
    but id have to draw them
    ive been collecting bearings and what not for a while now
    so eventually here im gona make some time to build it

    good luck
    zach
     
  5. ironhunter
    Joined: Jul 20, 2002
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    Buy a lathe first. You'll come out ahead as far as money. Turn your own dies for the wheel and hammers for the planishing hammer. Otherwise you'll spend a pile on those things.

    I built both. I used a WWII-era riveter head for my planishing hammer. It's kinda like a air chisel but very different. It extends 4" before it starts hammering. Slow and hard hitting, not like a buzzing chisel that makes a lot of noise and does a little work. This thing will break your hand. Theres a guy on the net that sells rebuilt ones for about $200. I used an old big drill press base and post, and from there it's all fabbed.
     
  6. ray
    Joined: Jun 25, 2001
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    from colorado

    here's a little inspiration for ya! i just got my hammer functioning yesterday after it being a backburner project for a few months. still need to tidy up the plumbing, make another lower die holder that has an articulated arm to be able to move the die around, etc. but these were my first couple test pieces, first a patch panel for rust on my 51 chevy, then i traced a funnel, and practiced coloring within the lines, didn't do too bad for a first effort. then among some other practice panels, i threw a little bit of a reverse curve with a defined line into a panel using only the planishing hammer, the first two were worked over on the shot bag and shrunk edges.

    i made my own dies, heat threated and everything, but many people grind their own from grade 8 bolts etc. i made the frame a bit heavy for the application, 2x3 1/8 wall tube, then filled it with sand to prevent any ringing from the frame, works great, solid as a rock and the only noise is from the actual hammering, really no louder than any other hammer hit, just a lot more of em! the head is a HF air chisel. i built the lower die holder on a removeable arm so i can make others if necessary to get into difficult spots, and i will certainly be building more, i quickly realized you need to be able to offset the dies to get into areas like the edge of the dome i did.

    one important part i made, not shown, is an alignment tool to line up the upper and lower clamps when welding and setup, just a bar to clamp in both clamps at once, made it a snap to weld.
     

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  7. metalshapes
    Joined: Nov 18, 2002
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    My English Wheel.

    I built the Frame, the top wheel was a Drive Pulley in some Machine ( took the grooves off in a Lathe ), the lower Wheels are bought, the adjuster is a Tailstock off an old Lathe.
     
  8. metalshapes
    Joined: Nov 18, 2002
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    I bought my Planishing Hammer, but I made a frame for it too.

    The Headache rack off a Forklift provided the material, and I made the Footpedal out of the case off a worn out Die Grinder and a Moon type Throttle Pedal
     
  9. ray
    Joined: Jun 25, 2001
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    ray
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    from colorado

    i dig the race car throttle pedal metalshapes! is the valve from a die grinder? might flow a bit more volume than a blow gun type foot pedal.
     
  10. ironhunter
    Joined: Jul 20, 2002
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    hell yeah...this is what it's all about!
     
  11. ray
    Joined: Jun 25, 2001
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    ray
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    from colorado

    you'd think, huh?

    this thread is a good example of what was mentioned in the HAMB feedback thread about people reluctant to post tech cause nobody even notices.:rolleyes: a few measly posts, while everybody else seems to be posting about the use of club names. it's okay i guess, i need the practice beatin on metal more than i need practice typin wurds on the cumpooter.
     
  12. metalshapes
    Joined: Nov 18, 2002
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    Yeah, its a gutted Die Grinder.
    I took the 90deg arbor off, capped the end and put a fitting on it for the hose.

    So all thats left of the Die Grinder is the empty housing, the valve, and the handle.

    It works good...:)
     
  13. junkman
    Joined: Dec 17, 2005
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    from Athens,La

    metalshapes--That is a great way to make a foot valve for a hammer! Do you think it would also work as a foot control for a sandblast cabinet? Thanks for the tip
     
  14. Unkl Ian
    Joined: Mar 29, 2001
    Posts: 13,509

    Unkl Ian

    There is a thread on www.chopperweb.net about making
    a foot operated valve from a ball valve.
     

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