It has been a while since I have been on the HAMB. I have decided to change directions on my '56 customline. I am going with a 5.0 H.O. motor. I bought all the fuel injection stuff as a package on Craigslist. My first question is what are you guys that have done this swap doing about a gas pedal and throttle cable? I am sure I will have more questions come up as I get more into this latest project.
I'll keep an eye on the responses. There are enough 5.0 guys here you shouldn't have any problems getting an answer. Otherwise, I'll tell you how I did my gas pedal with the 4.6 throttle cable.....should/may be the same basic approach.
I am sure I will have to use a different style pedal altogether. Something that hinges on the interior of the firewall. I just don't know what works best. Maybe late '60' mustang modified for a fox body cable
I have a 5.0 but mine is not fuel injected,so I doubt a photo of my mechanical linkage would help. HRP
Are you going to run an AOD with the 5.0? You could run a pedal like this it has the correct end used with universal cables that come in several lengths http://www.ebay.com/itm/BILLET-ALUM...ash=item1e7afb1718:g:ZKcAAMXQaOVRmUI3&vxp=mtr You won't know what cable to order until you have the 5.0 in where you can take a measurement.
Like Danny, I'm running a carburetor on mine so my info may or may not be useful. I'm running the stock pedal, connected to the stock linkage that bolts to the firewall, and that's connected to an adjustable linkage arm that I got from Jegs. One thing that IS relevant to the linkage discussion is where you mount your 5.0. The motor mounts can be swapped, side to side. One configuration places the engine with the driver's side valve cover just about touching the firewall. The other configuration places the engine forward about an inch or so. The former limits your choices for what to do with throttle linkage while the latter allows more room.
I'm not throwing off on Jeffs suggestion but IMHO that gas pedal looks too modern for the Fords of the 1950's. Building hot rods has always presented problems to overcome and I would think you may be able to modify the gas pedal to work with the fuel injection. I x'ed out the original parts that was discarded. These are the hardware store pieces I used to connect the throttle to the linkage. This is the linkage made from hardware store parts,the rod and the two swivels. Possibly you can do basically the same thing thing as far as cleaning up the firewall throttle linkage and modify it to use a cable .HRP
Thank you all for your replies. I do have an AOD and I am using the fox body mounts in the most forward position which enabled me to mount the AOD without any modification to the transmission crossmember. I had a carb on and had it hooked up as you guys described. I think just for the ease of installation I will go with the pedal Jeff mentioned. Those pedals are wuite adjustable. Question. who makes the universal throttle cables? I suppose I could use the Lokar carb cable, but I was thinking it may be too short. Again thanks for the help. You guys were very helpful to me when installing the AOD. Thanks
I used the Lokar cable for the TV cable on my AOD for the throttle cable I used RPC they look the same a 24" cable was too long with my Carb setup so this should give you more than enough for you F.I. http://www.ebay.com/itm/36-braided-...m1eb7113a18:m:mGooY1hD4fsrkZfX5Q8XEwg&vxp=mtr you may have to get a little creative with the mounting brackets for F.I. but should be no big deal. If you have to shorten the braided cable slide a 2" piece of shrink tube on the cable before you cut,wrap some masking tape around the place you will cut and use a Dremel cut off wheel for a clean cut slide the shrink tube to the end and heat it this will prevent the braided cable from fraying on the end.
The Lokar kits are long enough to cut and fit,they offer a black plastic coated cable that is less expensive than the braided type.HRP http://www.lokar.com/product-pgs/throttlecables-kickdowns/tc-kd-pgs/throttle-cables.html
I will add pics for sure. I kept the stock TV cable from when I bought my AOD. I was thinking about using that in the stock throttle cable bracket and I can just enlarge the hole for the throttle cable if I need to for a universal throttle cable
And BTW this is an awesome forum. I have been on many other forums and have never gotten as much useful information as I find here. Thank you all.
Just make sure the TV cable is adjusted dead on,it only takes about 10 minutes to fry an AOD. The weak link in the stock cable is the plastic bushings if they fail your adjustment does too,there are bronze replacements for those available the majority of us usually go for the Lokar TV cables because that issue is eliminated.
quote hrp: "I'm not throwing off on Jeffs suggestion but IMHO that gas pedal looks too modern for the Fords of the 1950's." Remember, mine is a 4.6, and doesn't have a cable going to the 4R70W ******, but...My thoughts also, I didn't want that style of gas pedal. My solution: I used two gas pedals, lol. I mounted the firewall mounted pedal from the donor Mark VIII, and made a crescent shaped s**** to replace the pedal itself, then I mounted the floor hinged pedal in front of it, so the floor hinged pedal actuates the Mark VIII pedal ***embly. I had bought the set of pedals years ago and was determined to figure a way of using them. They are 63 Galaxie 500xl reproductions.
The thing with the cable working with the aftermarket pedal is it is is set up for that and can be angle adjusted,want the look of the stock pedal instead ? A pack of J.B Weld and an overnight clamping will do the trick
Yes, the adjustable angle would save some work. The Mark VIII firewall was at a different angle than the '57, and the pedal had to be moved 1n 1/2" or so from the firewall to that the angles on the '57's firewall didn't interfere with free travel of the pedal. I did that with a nylon block. BTW, cement fiber house siding makes a great base to weld on or as a splatter shield. It will not burn.
I got to thinking about the adjustable angle Jeff was talking about on the aftermarket unit, and realized I forgot to post a pic of what I later did to mine to adjust the angle. When I was hooking up everything, I realized I was not getting full throttle and it was limited by the pedal movement. I had an extra pedal ***embly, so I just used the mounting plate off it and welded to the pedal I was using at the angle I needed.
So I got the pedal installed and hooked up a universal cable, and the angles are too sharp how are you guys routing the cable. I may need to buy an even longer cable and try it. I will send pics of my mocked up motor and how it is routed now. the turn right after the cable exits the firewall is very sharp I may need to go straight and then loop it around under the upper intake, but then the bend into the throttle will be very sharp. Help Thanks a lot for your help
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