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(a bit O/T) $100,000 for unsafe engineering

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Machinos, Jan 14, 2004.

  1. Machinos
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    http://www.therodfactory.com/3wcSnpshts.htm

    This is a pretty typical $100,000 "turn-key" billetmobile '34 fiberglass Ford. I was looking at the pictures anyway, and noticed something... the front brakes do not have flex hoses. They're running hard brake line directly into the calipers from the frame.

    I'm really not an expert on car building, but I've had 3 incidents so far in my short time of being a licensed driver where brake lines have failed due to rust fatigue. Where rust slowly eats away at a small section of line until the metal is thin enough that hitting the brakes blows a hole in the line and suddenly there's no braking power.

    I can't even imagine how fast that thing is going to fail. Every time the steering wheel is turned both brake lines flex one way or the other. 50 miles at most, maybe?

    $100,000 is enough money to buy a sports car with some of the finest craftsmanship and performance engineering available. Why anyone would spend it on a car they can't even drive is beyond me.
     
  2. 40StudeDude
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    Are you sure those are hard lines...I looked and I couldn't tell for sure...could be like a stainless flex line.
    R-
     
  3. lucky_1974
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    Duh your not suppose to drive a $100,000 car it is a sculptor or model... [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  4. fab32
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    I can't believe that this thing has hard lines from the frame to the calipers. It looks more like braded line to me. I also can't believe a rod building shop would do anything like that. Sure hope I'm right.

    Frank
     
  5. kustumizer
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    It looks like steel braided lines. How many times do you suppose he will drive that? Nate
     
  6. Hackerbilt
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    Look how it droops.....FLEX line!
    Machinos is stuck in the fifties...he wants to see a black rubber flex hose!
    GOOD on ya Machinos!!!! [​IMG]

    Bill

     
  7. Machinos
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    It looks too skinny to be braided stainless to me, but I think the way calipers usually are is a hard line going from the back a short distance to where the flex line mounts. It really looks to me like they've got it going right into the frame.

    By the way, you've gotta "mouse-over" the pictures to see the bigger version.
     
  8. Scribe
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    Looks like braided stainless line to me...

    This thread reminds me of the girls who go to the beach and talk shit about the blonde in the bikini with the big fake boobs that all the guys are staring at. They might be purchased instead of home grown, but that doesn't make them bad... [​IMG]
     
  9. Machinos
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    I'll take your word for it then. Still not worth anywhere near $100,000 though [​IMG]
     
  10. ELpolacko
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    I can promise you those are braided stainless steel.

    The motorcycle aftermarket industry has been using a clear vynil coverd braided hose for years that looks just like what is on those pictures.

    I do have reservations about the way they ran the hoses, they are prone to breakage that way. They should run from the caliper forward around the coil over and to the frame. This puts a much simpler flex into the hose instead of compressing and stretching.

    You did scare me for a second. I thought you were going to show me something from my old employer The Rod Factory

    I am going to forward that to him just so they are aware of annother company using the same name.
     
  11. fordiac
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    those look like braided to me.

    i have a set of braided BL at home for a customers car, and the look very much like those.

    they are alot skinnier than a black rubber hose.
     
  12. Machinos
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    ah, that would explain why I couldn't see any braids. I didn't know such a thing existed.
     
  13. disastron13
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    On GP bikes I've seen some real small diameter brake hose, aboyt one-eight inch OD.
    I guess its for an application where unsprung weight is vital.
    I was born in St Cloud, man, "What a shithole" as Carl Perkins would say.
    Bought my first Harley in Pantown.
    Glad to be in Texas.
    Oh I guess there's some good folks there, don't be insulted
     
  14. Faded Love Garage
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    What would you be doing looking at that anyway?
     
  15. Yeah its those small diameter braided stainless hoses.Kinda look like a 1/4" line in that light....but NO......... they have another Peculiar quality that I personally do not like,in that once you tighten them at the A N nut they do not flex in the same way as a rubber hose would. if put on a light car with very limited travel in the front suspension they suffice- but in a more conventional "heavy car"suspension with more travel I would not recommend them at all.
     
  16. hightest
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    hey, that place is in my town, not too far from me. want me to go and check for ya? [​IMG]
     

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