Hello HAMBERS, been a long time since I've been on here. It may seem silly, but I can't seem to figure out how the outside handles are removed from the doors. Anyone with experience out there? HELP please.
Two screws on the handle base need removed, then it should come out. The square shank that goes into the latch can get tight, so may take some wiggling or penetrating oil to get it to pull free.
Thanks Chris, it's weird, absolutely stuck. I guess I'll let it soak in some penetrating oil for a couple of days. I was just curious if the there was some release trick like a model A. I have very little experience with '30s cars.
No problem...I believe the hole the square shank on the handle goes into is open ended...so if the door panel is off, you may be able to tap it from the backside.
Is the inside door panel off? Show us a picture of the inside of the latch if it is. Looks like the latch is missing screws on the jam side of the door.
Mine pull straight out, the square hole for the shaft has a very thin spring steel washer with tabs (like a push nut) to keep it from rattling. Sometimes they can be dug into the shaft pretty good. Best to drive it out from the inside like Chris said above.
I've removed a bunch of those and don't recall ever having to turn and pull. It's easy to believe it's stuck in the lock body. Likely been in there for a while.
If its that stuck you might have to take the door panel off and tap the shank end to coax it out.It then pulls straight out.35 and later are trickier to get out.
On the right is the spring steel washers, the tabs I mentioned you can see in the center. The ones on the left are actually turned out of delrin as a replacement for those worn ones, fit snug, turn smooth, and keep handle from drooping. The handles pull out straight.
Hi, yes the interior trim panel is off. I wanted to remove the lock mechanism to make some sheet metal repair behind it. Yes, the screws are out of the escutcheon as well as the lock plate. The handle shaft seems "locked" on to the lock plate. I really was hoping to take this apart without damaging anything. As I mentioned, the other side pops apart no problem. Drive it out??
You can see in my pic above the square shaft goes straight through, also the small square shaft for the lock on the left latch does the same. I would use a punch and drive it out, but with the latch still screwed to the door so it does not hit the inside of the door skin. Did you loosen the lock set screw in the hole on the door jam? That is all that holds the key lock in.
I want thank everyone for helping with this. I put all the screws back in but removed the lock cylinder which seems to have nothing to do with the door handle being stuck. Here's what I observed today; the door handle shaft does move back and forth in the square lock hole a little, BUT the outside escutcheon does not move/ come off. I'm wondering why that would be? Any ideas?
Stuck to the paint? A little nudge with a br*** drift and a hammer on the square shaft inside the door may help.
I have seen the the little ears on the spring steel washers. As shown above, get sticky if they have not been out for a while and are rusty at all. Soak it down, then get out the trusty ol hammer and punch. Try tapping carefully from the inside out. good luck
The handle should come off just like the other side and the lock cylinder, The notches on the handle shaft must be hung up on the little tabs in the center of the spring steel washer I've mentioned before, possibly rusted and broken off. Have someone wiggle it while you tap it out. The escutcheon is swedged to the shaft. Doubt it's stuck to the paint cause it would come off and leave the rubber pad there. The notches on the shaft look like this picture, I don't actually think the notches are in the square hole or the shaft would stick out inside the door panel.
Hi, I've got to get so Hi, I've got to get me some "hybrid" stickers to go with my "Mr.Horsepower" decals. OK, going to whack it with a drift. I'm just hoping to not have to repair the outer skin as well.
"I've got to get me some "hybrid" stickers to go with my "Mr.Horsepower" decals." After you get the handle off I would suggest you definitely remove the latch and check it over real good, maybe someone else has " fixed it " sometime before.
Johnboy34- Did you make those delrin inserts? My spring steel washers are trashed causing the door handle to wobble and not work. Are there any replacements out there other than making? I dont have a lathe in order to turn those. I know this is replying to a years old post. Thanks for any help.
Yes,I made them. I don't have a lath either, I used the drill press. 1/2 inch delrin rod Drilled 5/16 hole in the center, then filed it square to fit sng on the handle shaft. Used a carriage bolt & washer-nut to hold it. Put threaded part of bolt in the chuck. Used different saw blades & files to cut the outside. 1/16" - 1/32" - 1/8" Sneak up to the outside ends so they fit snug but not tight in the latch. (both sides) Mine still work fine, hopefully that helps. The measurements are off memory, I'll double check later out in the shop. Sent from my SM-G973U using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
Thank you. Makes sense and will give that process a try. With the old clips the handle wobbled a little but would allow the “striker” or the piece that rotates pushing on bar to open is called. With the slop, it would slide past bar and not open door.
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