Hot Rods Von Dutch pinstriped T found

Have no irons in the fire...and hope it is real for history's sake....but that picture in the photo album doesn't look like a 1969 photograph to me. There isn't a white border on it like nearly all others I've seen....it appears to be of a modern size....the date on the lower right...and the paper seems thin compared to actual photos it's near. Just my observation of that photo showing Dutch with the car shown in the photo album...

Of course if there are pics showing him painting/striping the car...my observations over that one photo are moot.

 

OK Guys,Why haven't we ever seen this style of striping in ANY magazines or by personal observations that are claimed to be "Von Dutch" .This STYLE is not Von Dutch or we would have seen it many times before. I am NOT convinced,but doesn't really matter but that is how facts are mis-used and finally everyone believes them...Not Me...

 

I agree with the size of the photo & date on bottom. Looks like other photos in album have white edges. Also, it appears as if Dutch is out of proportion with the car? Odd that both hands are only place water spots damaged.

 

Dave Shuten is right about a lot of the people on here, there are people that don't know what they are talking about and put their worthless 2 cents in.

 

For all of you Ratfink fans out there Ed "Big Daddy " Roth's '56 F-100 shop truck has been found. The guys at Galpin Auto Sports purchased the vehicle and they plan to take on the restoration work to get it back to its former glory.


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WTF does this T-bucket have to do with Dave Shuten and galpin Ford? Did I miss something?

 

George...post #34 is by the guy that found the t bucket....he mentioned Dave Shuten the guy that is restoring the Ed Roth F100...also works for Galpin

Chryslerfan....there is a thread on here about that truck....with similar results to this one...

 

I checked out the mag today but I used the $7.99 for Mondays special, a burger, fries, and/or onion rings, and a domestic beer at the local watering hole. There's a thread on here about the truck.

 

Great. and we heard all about that on another thread. So what does it have to do with this T-bucket??

EDIT: Sorry, I am a little slow on the uptake here. I get it now.

 

Not a challenge to anyone here, for or against this T being a Von Dutch original(!), but just wondering...what IS the Von Dutch style for pinstriping etc?
Seems like a good thread to ask on.
I know the "Greek" was known for those teardrops he did but I'm not up on any of the various styles very much at all.

 

Theres more to his style than teardrops, he tended to do broader stripes with pinstripes around them, ending with an arrowhead or point. His style was much more traditional (not HAMB "traditional" but traditional as in paying homage to the styles that came before him) cleaner, simpler and much less flamboyant and "free-form" than the typical "fifties style" striping that was influenced by Von Dutch and Jeffries.

 

Dammit George, Every time you post that picture Im junk the rest of the day!!!!

 

Yep. Most old school pinstriper's know exactly what you mean when you say Tommy the Greek style. He was before, and influenced most of the guys you hear about, including Dutch. Here's a few Tommy the Greek types - the red one was done by Phil Whetstone (Philly the Greek) the last one is Tommy's own car.

 

Hell, I have it my screensaver, it rolls around every 5 minutes!

 

Man...I do like that T...and I like the one this thread is about too!

I just did something I've never actually done before: I googled Von Dutch pinstriping.
I can now fully understand why some people question Von Dutch's involvement in the striping of this car!!!

The only real description for Von Dutch's work would be "elaborate".
Gotta say I do like the simplicity of the work on the T and those 3D style leaves, but it really doesn't look like the..."normal(?)"...work of Von Dutch.

 

Not always, but as a general rule, "restraint" was not a big part of the "Von Dutch" style. One thing to consider, this car was pinstriped roughly ten years later than what most think of as Von Dutches heyday, and I think his style did change a little over time. Not taking a side in the "is it or isn't it" debate one way or the other, just pointing this out.

 

FWIW, the "3d leafs" are variegated gold leaf, not striping per-se.

 

I agree with you on not taking sides on who did what. COOL car regardless!
The leaves I meant are on the box sides. Airbrushed candy paint by the looks of it...but not striping work.

 

Thanks Panther


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I see what you are talking about now, yes. Kinda starburst shape.

 

I'm going to bank it on being terrible writing but there are some obvious flubs in there.

He has a second tail gate to preserve the signature. But doesn't seem to think it a big deal that von Dutch painted it.

He try's to make it sound like he has no idea who the guy was or what his last name was.

So he bought a second tailgate to preserve his signature? That makes zero sence

That photo with the date on it is obviously new, the water spots as mentioned look to be old paper from a previous photo that got stuck in the plastic as they do.

Not saying the photo isn't real but it's a new print, even the date stamp on it is a contemporary lettering style.

Yeah, there's enough to call bullshit and there's enough other evidence to say it's real. Either way it kinda reads like when they have the stock market reporter do a piece on TROG

 

Sometimes it more fun to read all of the comments first and then go back and read the article. All I have to add is that the story is really cool. A good start to my Friday!

 

"Didn't know who he was?" Guess that's possible...
Hell, Von Franco lived around MY shop for a coupla years, we never 'knew' who HE was...