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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 54popular, Nov 29, 2016.

  1. 54popular
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    I did have a 54 Pop a while back. Sold it but still kept all the goodies I collected for it. I didn't have the heart to cut it up for a V8 as it was still bone stock so I collected all of the period correct aftermarket speed parts for the little 4 banger. Aluminum head and side cover, Scintilla magneto, Shorrock supercharger, cast iron header, aluminum side cover, aluminum timing cover with built in tach drive, so many other parts too... I plan on getting another bone stock Anglia or Popular some day and putting all the stuff on it.

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  2. DDDenny
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    Roo
    The first thing that came to mind was the possibility that they may be of the OZ/NZ variety, but I figgered if they were, you would have recognized them as such.
    BTW, some time back I asked you about the various custom wheels that specifically were mfg for the Aussie market, did you ever look into that. Inquiring minds want to know!
     
  3. hotroddon
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    This one might be available ....... PM me if interested
    54 Anglia.jpg
     
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  4. falcongeorge
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    Heres a link to the Wilwood catalog, go to page 44, look at dimension D, and tell me where you see a bearing with an outer race od of 2.035, or close enough for a light press fit...
    http://www.wilwood.com/Pdf/Catalogs/TechCatalog.pdf
     
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  5. falcongeorge
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    Ok, its been fun, but time to put this to bed. OP, How deep is the backside register? A little over 22mm, right? Sorry, oh yea, right, its a vintage American made magnesium spindle mount drag racing wheel, right? So lets say 7/8" +/- .010?
     
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  6. rooman
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    Looking at the Wilwood chart I presume that your argument is that the OD of the bearing register is too small but consider this:
    For one thing Wilwood do not list a hub for an Anglia spindle. I just measured my Cragar Super Trick hubs and although it does not match the OP dimension it is close at 2.046 so the wheels are in the ball park. The Cragar hub uses tapered roller bearing and races and has a smaller outer bearing register while 2 pairs of dragster spoke wheels that I have(again for Anglia hubs) use the same OD bearings for both inner and outer--sealed roller bearings at 1.85" od, My Don Long dragster wheels have the same OD bearing size for the inner and only 1.3640 for the outers. That said, the small variation between the inner and outer register on the wheels in question is a little strange as I would think that it would be greater like my Long spokers.
    I also have a long history of playing with motorcycles and have yet to see one that uses different size bearings on either side of the wheel--with a straight axle why would you? Maybe on the drive side on the rear of a big horsepower bike or something with a single side swing arm but these wheels do not fit that profile. Put them in the mystery category for now but don't dismiss the possibility that they were not meant for a two wheel application.

    Roo
     
  7. falcongeorge
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    I still don't the wheels original application, but I had a pretty good idea what bearing fit them five minutes after he posted the dimensions, I'm just waiting for the depth of the register.
     
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  8. 54popular
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    The depth of the back register is .560" from bottom to step for seal, .800" overall depth. And to Rooman's comment of the overall hub width, it measures 3.750"
     
  9. falcongeorge
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    Depth is bang on, 15mm bearing + a 7mm seal.
    Heres your bearing.
    http://wotid.com/gsxr/content/view/29/35/
    Let the *****ing, whining and self-justification begin!!:rolleyes:
     
  10. 54popular
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    Just realized I goofed on the front side measurement as I had measured at the face where the dust cap would press in. The actual measurement for the front side race is right at 1.600". I had a friend bring over some Anglia spindle bearings just now and the front and rear bearings look like they are just the right size when considering their position with races installed. I also measured the hub width from the back side to the front side of where the front bearing would be and it comes out to 3.050". I know a guy who has a set of P&S Anglia spindles so I'm going to see how they set up in the wheels and will let you guys know.
     
  11. DDDenny
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    I know for a fact, if you can pull it off; you will probably have the only drag car in modern times with these wheels.
    I like them, but I'd really like to see how they look on the front of a drag car.
    Not sure about doing any high speed cornering with them though, especially not knowing their history.
     
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