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  1. Dino 64
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    Would it be safe to use this filter with this paint ? I'll have plenty of ventilation and cover myself completely. This for small areas like patch panels etc.
    Thanks in advance !
     

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  2. KoolKat-57
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    Is there specs on the can for proper safety measures.
    Check the paints web site also for recommendations.
    KK
     
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  3. Dino 64
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    Thanks, can refers to "proper protection", I'll check the web site.
     
  4. Slopok
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    Not to diminish the safety aspect but I don't believe it would be necessary to cover yourself completely if you're just using an aerosol spray for a small area. Just make sure you point the nozzle away from you!:eek:
     
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  5. Dino 64
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  6. Slopok
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    Ya never know, ever read shampoo bottle directions... Says to WET HAIR FIRST!:D
     
  7. Hotrodmyk
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    Look up the MSDS on line for the product. It will give you all the information.
     
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  8. Dino 64
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  9. afaulk
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    Having good ventilation, a fan drawing air away from the area you're painting in really helps immensely.
     
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  10. Stu D Baker
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    The filter you have should be good for the paint your using. That primer is an epoxy, 2k (so most likely contains some bad stuff). Make sure your mask fits good. If you have a heavy beard, maybe a full face mask would be better.
     
  11. Dino 64
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    Thanks, I have a ventilation system and I'm connecting a dryer hose so it will pull air from less than a foot away from where I'm spraying.
    Mask is new as are the cartridges.
    Should I have air tight goggles?





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  12. Stu D Baker
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    The bad stuff in activated paint can enter your system through eyes, ears, nose, cuts, etc. That said, wearing eye protection is not a really bad deal. I don't hang around in the room where I've sprayed either. Watching paint dry is not very exciting.

    You're spraying from a rattle can, but if your mixing the material in a container, the heaviest concentration of bad fumes (IMHO) is when your looking down into the mixing container while stirring!
     
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  13. Dino 64
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    Yeah, thanks, I plan on a quick shot and out of the garage asap[emoji41]


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  14. Paint Guru
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    Spraymax is the best aerosol system out there, it has excellent transfer efficiency. I am big on safety, but you don't have to get carried away on suits mask etc. A respirator like you have with gloves is sufficient.

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  15. Dino 64
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    Thanks, I'm not familiar with that product. Is it an epoxy primer or a process ? Will the respirator I have be ok with the paint I posted ??


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  16. Dino 64
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    Duh !! That's what I have !! Getting older and stupider[emoji15][emoji41]


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  17. kbgreen
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    Safety requirements imposed by OSHA consider exposure over an 8-hour work day. If your work takes less than 8 hours, then you average zero exposure for the time remaining in the 8-hour day that you are not working then average the 15 minutes of exposure to the 7':45" exposure resulting essentially in zero exposure. You know that there will still be airborne particles of paint/solvent in the air after you spray but even considering elevated exposure for an hour average over zero exposure for the rest of the 8 hour work day makes for negligible exposure.

    My point is that there is a diminishing point of return for extra safety balanced with a no-tolerance of any exposure. That is for you to decide. Something to consider about urethane paint: your body becomes increasingly sensitized to it over longer and longer periods of exposure.

    Very practical advice is to provide respiratory protection during the work and ventilate the space during work and for a short time afterwards. If you find that you are going through a lot of this product, you might consider a different course of action including using a regular spray gun on larger batches of work in a contained space.
     
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  18. Dino 64
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    Thanks for your reply. Better safe than sorry. From what you're saying, I don't think I need to worry as my plan is to " shoot and run " And not be in the work space for 24 hour.
    I feel less likely to hurt myself now . Painting large areas are done by a pro at his location. This is only intended for preventing leaving any bare metal during patch panels and ***embly.
    Appreciate all advice given, thanks [emoji106]



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  19. Slopok
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    Hopefully you won't get any runs!;)
     
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  20. Dino 64
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    Or get the runs ! [emoji15][emoji849][emoji6]


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  21. mike bowling
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    Time for the annual posting of "Home Painting; The Wrong Way"---
    (it's almost time to give everything in the garage a touch up)
    My crazy neighbor, Steve, doing his thing( and he's still alive)
     

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  22. belair
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    And now he has blue lung.
     
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  23. clunker
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    I love that picture, Mike. Steve probably just did what I did; grew .3 micron natural "nose hair" filters. They work great, no problems here. I'm working on my bushy extended "sun shade" eyebrows now.

    IMG_1482291093.666157.jpg
     
  24. Gman0046
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    Spoke to a friend of mine recently who has been in the body shop/paint business for his whole life. He's in his late fifties and is deeply concerned over what damage he's done to himself over the years. He just lost the lease on his shop and is considering getting out of the business entirely. Working around carcinogens is dangerous. I've been in the aircraft maintenance field my whole life and as I look back on it, its a wonder anyone of us is still alive after what we've been exposed to. Years ago we used Trichlorethylene like it was water. A real good friend of mine has had prostate cancer, diabetes and has just been diagnosed with a rare form of leukemia. He too has been in aircraft maintenance his whole life as well. His doctor said his medical history is what they usually see in those who are exposed to Agent Orange.
     
  25. Dino 64
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    Hey Mike, can't he wait until after the first of the year when that sticky green stuff is legal in your state ? Much better buzz !!!
     
  26. mike bowling
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    The smoking lamp is lit. ( and the blender's ready for Margeritas!)
     

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