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TECH QUESTION: lowering my car from the coils

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by chopped52, Mar 6, 2006.

  1. chopped52
    Joined: Mar 5, 2006
    Posts: 94

    chopped52
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    from the twin

    hey guys, ive decided that the best option for me to lower my sedan delivery is by shortening the coils. Does anybody have any suggestions on the best way to go about doing this? what is the maximum drop i could obtain? any suggestions are greatly appreciated

    Shawn
     
  2. spoons
    Joined: Jan 1, 2004
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    spoons
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    from ohio

    Mine have been cut 2 coils ( on my 53' Hardtop) and I'm in the process of raising it back up!! Looks cool, but no shock travel. I'm gonna cut them 1 coil this time. Should drop it about 1.5-2.0 " I already have dropped uprights and spindles from fatman, so it should drive a little better this time.......


    Spoons
     
  3. chuckspeed
    Joined: Sep 13, 2005
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    When cutting coils:

    1) easiest way to cut 'em is with a cutoff wheel - you'll zap thru them in no time!

    2) Depending on the geometry of your front suspension, the amount of drop you get is *about* double the amount you cut off. If your coil-to-coil distance 1-1/2", for example - you'll see a 3" drop with one coil cut.

    3) Measure the amount of free travel you have at the bump stop - typically these are close to the springs, so the amount of material you take out of the spring is *roughly* the reduction in free travel.

    4) Most guys go too far on the first cut. When in doubt - take less off - not more. A good starter cut is a little less than one coil. Drive it a while and see if you like it thataway.

    5) If you ignore #4 and end up with a bouncy suspension, you're probably on the bump stops. You can pick up some additional travel if you pull the bump stops - just be prepared to hear a loud BANG! from time to time as the suspension goes metal-to-metal. With time and practice driving, you can pretty much avoid the metal-to-metal event.

    6) if you ignore #4 and don't like #5, there are rubber inserts and spaces which can be placed on the spring mount to bring the suspension up somewhat.

    7) almost forgot...Depending on how your springs are set up, cutting from the top is best. If your spring has a flat top (coil end is tapered making for a flat surface) at the top and open at the bottom - then cut from the bottom. I've done both types of cut with decent results.
     
  4. 49 Fastback
    Joined: Jun 24, 2005
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    49 Fastback
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    from Ohio

    Good info here, Chuckspeed. Printing this out for the reference folder I'm making.

    Tucker
     
  5. Leadsled51
    Joined: Dec 21, 2001
    Posts: 333

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    When I got my 50 Chevy, someone had cut the coils way too much, and even though it looked cool, rode like crap. I went ahead and ordered new coil springs from a place called Coil Spring Specialties. They have a website, just do a search, and you can get a quote online. You tell them the car, how much you want it lowered, and they send you a quote. I got mine 4" lower than stock, but at the same spring rate. They were about $105 for the pair. I know cutting them is the cheap, fast way, but you cant beat the ride on springs that are made correctly. No wham on the bumps.
     
  6. chopped52
    Joined: Mar 5, 2006
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    hey guys,
    thanks for all the great suggestions, i couldnt be happier.

    shawn
     
  7. adam_wakeley
    Joined: Jan 15, 2006
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    adam_wakeley
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    from Louisville

    what if your coils are narrower at the top and bottom. can't cut the coils or they won't fit in the seats
     
  8. 53sled
    Joined: Jul 5, 2005
    Posts: 5,817

    53sled
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    from KCMO

  9. I grabbed this out of a chassis book:

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  10. I put a smallblock in my 50 delivery and cut the front coils 1.5 loops. I also trimmed down the rubber snubbers so only 1/2 inch was sticking up. The car didn't get super low but the ride was still ok. It took a big dip to bottom out.
     

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  11. fbomb_70
    Joined: Feb 19, 2006
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    fbomb_70
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    from Wisconsin

    Do you measure the coil to coil distance with the spring compressed or out of the car?
     
  12. 53chieftian
    Joined: Aug 13, 2005
    Posts: 611

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    Don't use a torch like the guy in the pics! Its way to easy to get them too hot and then you will loose even more spring rate. Also after you cut off, say 1 coil, drive the car a few HUNDRED miles before deciding to cut more! The springs will settle some.
     
  13. leaded
    Joined: Nov 17, 2005
    Posts: 326

    leaded
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    from Norway

    cut it max approx. 1,5 turn. ;y Chevy -50 laid on rubberstop when cutted 2.5.
     
  14. chub chub
    Joined: Aug 15, 2004
    Posts: 289

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    I've been told by a couple people that you can still cut from the top and the weight of the car will hold them in place. I haven't done it myself though. Can anyone speak from experience?
     
  15. scapin38
    Joined: Oct 22, 2001
    Posts: 84

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    i heated my springs on my 53 pontiac. and let the weight of the car bring it down on blocks that were level at 2.5 inches. i heated the top and bottom the center is not collapsed. i have put over 500 miles or more rides great and dosent't bang. also i trimed down my bump stops.
     
  16. flamedabone
    Joined: Aug 3, 2001
    Posts: 5,697

    flamedabone
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    I cut the coils on the Stude last weekend...

    First, I cut 3/4 of a coil off. Didn't do anything. I let it sit overnight...drove it all over, hit bumps..still, didn't lower it at all.

    Soooo, I pulled the coils and cut a full coil (1 and 3/4 total.) Whoops. That put her on the ground. Lowered her more than 3 inches. I tried to pull her out of the shop only to fuck up the front air dam and drag a bunch of rocks trying to get her back in.

    Bought a new set of springs from TRW, cut them 1/2 coil at a time and ended up removing 1 and 1/2 total. Car sits perfect.

    Moral of the story..new springs will lower diffrently than old springs, even though they are the same length, diameter and application.

    -Abone.

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