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Technical Bandsaw blade - lubrication??

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Dan, Jan 4, 2017.

  1. DDDenny
    Joined: Feb 6, 2015
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    from oregon

    Man, I wanted an Ellis saw after seeing four different friends buy them for their shops. Downsized equipment before I could get one, I'd like to have one just to look at.
     
  2. Marty Strode
    Joined: Apr 28, 2011
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    I use Erwin Bi-Metal blades from MSC on my vertical band saw, they last real well. 1/2" wide 14 tooth works well on steel from 16 ga to 3/4", but will not turn tight corners.
     
  3. wackdaddy
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    I like this stuff for sawing cutting drilling IMG_1351.JPG
     
  4. blue 49
    Joined: Dec 24, 2006
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    I use bee's wax on my saws from a toilet bowel wax ring and it works good. Cheap, too.

    Gary
     
  5. Roadsir
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    Went to search for this on Amazon. Not to be confused with Nicks Sticks beef snacks....Who knows they may work too. But they do have Nikx Stikz. I see on their website it's not distributed nationwide.

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  6. 325w
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    Another use for that soap on a rope your brother in law gave you.
     
  7. crminal
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    Tried summer sausage once but just kept snacking on it :D
    Anyway, I think they'll ship it. Just bought 3 sticks today from my local steel retailer @ $3.99 per.
     
  8. Nicholson makes aluminum-specific files; well worth the money if working with aluminum much.
     
  9. Work4it
    Joined: Dec 11, 2011
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    I have been using Boelube for years, it comes in a stick and as a paste. Great for drill bits, hole saws, band saws, files and I have even used the paste on my press brake I made to reduce drag on the dies.

    For cutting aluminum I put a thin stripe of the paste along my cut line and the saw consumes the lube as you cut. The stick works great when drilling, once the bit is warm it melts on the bit and keeps the oily mess away from the drill press, if that sort of thing bothers you.

    You can get it in many places, this had a good description to read.

    http://www.skygeek.com/70200-13.htm...V-WwDaadT69GVG_p2CAEgMmAmyg8Mcx3qrBoCcZHw_wcB
     
  10. hotrod428
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    Ellis used to sell a air powered water mist unit to keep the blade cool but I **** canned it after everything started rusting.
     
  11. 57 HEAP
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    ^^ You could use that mist unit with out fluid and it would help cool and clear the blade of chips.
     
  12. Gofannon
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    Gibbs works well.
     
  13. patterg2003
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    Cut a lot of 1/8" aluminum plate a while ago and the purpose of the soap was not so much a cutting lubricant. The soap fills the saw blade gullets and prevents the aluminum from galling, sticking and filling the teeth. Aluminum cuts easy with a little soap on the blade and a bar lasted for years. Run soap lightly against the running blade prior to starting a cut and occasionally along the way. Soap keeps the bandsaw blade clean. Soap works good on a hacksaws & files used on aluminum as well. It is cheap and does not mess up the saw rollers etc.
     
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  14. willys36
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    Lot of people rap cheap blades but I have been using Harbor Freight bi-metal blades for years with great results. I run one for many months of hard Sunday use with no lube. Only time I get in trouble with them is trying to cut something hard like a grade 8 bolt or some stainless steel alloys, but on mild steel, aluminum, etc., they go forever. And I can by 3 or 4 HF blades for the price of a 'good' one so even if they didn't last as long as they do, I am still money ahead.
     
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  15. oj
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    I bought a bandsaw off a fellow that made a little bracket that held a toothbrush against the blade, you'd replace the toothbrush from time to time. I thought it was a good idea. The toothbrush was the best thing about that saw, I sold it pretty quick, it was too fast.
     
  16. gas pumper
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    The general rule is 3 teeth in the metal. If you use too co**** of a blade the tear out is gonna happen. But the problem is getting a high enough tooth count in a bandsaw blade to do sheet metal. I think I bought blades a few years ago from ....sawblade.com , try that..
     
  17. Mule Farmer
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    Waste of time and money unless you cutting tools steel or stainless steel.

    Sent from my SM-G920V using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
     
  18. nmpontiac
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    I've still got a couple Johnson's Wax Sticks from way back, it seems to work better than the Castrol stuff because it is a little "softer" - If you're grinding aluminum with discs this stuff really makes the finish nice and the discs don't clog, but you've got to clean stuff up with wax and grease remover if you want to weld on it.
     
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  19. DDDenny
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    I have handed out all the major saw blades while in the toolroom and almost without fail it's too high rpm's that destroys blades. The fab shop hired a new guy to run the big DoAll vertical bandsaw and within an hour he had come to the crib three times for new blades, I went to see what was going on and sure enough the saw was in its high rpm range.
    Apparently he had not been checked out first because he did not even know there was a range selector.
     
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  20. gimpyshotrods
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    I prefer the blood of my enemies.
     
  21. LostBoy
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    I hate this. People do the same **** with sawzall blades. They grab a saw and try to blow right through a piece of steel with the trigger pulled all the way to the handle. Then the blade either binds, bends, snaps, or just becomes a freaking ****er knife. 3 blades to make 5 cuts in a piece of exhaust tubing is outrageous. Even two blades would be to many. Then I tell them, "back off the trigger a little" and they look at me like I'm a retard. Two things I hate the most, wasted saw blades and wasted torches. It's one thing if you're new to this, it's another if you never learn and just act like you aren't supplied with enough consumables.


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  22. DDDenny
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    Roger that.
    I was an industrial machinist on the floor for 18 years and a toolroom machinist for 12 years all in the same company.
    I saw some ****!
     
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  23. BigDrag
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    I've used regular ivory bar soap on end mills it works ok....smells ok too.
     
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  24. saltflats
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    I have seen your pit crew....Its working.
     
  25. BigDrag
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    My crew isn't that pretty, that was just a beauty walking through the pits....stopped to take a pict with the car....still probably the best 3 seconds of my life....but that's for the vote of confidence...lol
     
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