Hot Rods H&J Service Station '34 3W Race Car From Temple, PA!

I have had some work done there. @Kevin Lee suggested I contact them as well. Great minds think alike!

 

Cactus here's a car similar to yours running on the outside of my 44 . We run with Blast From the Past at Grandview Speedway in Bechtelsville Pa. Our club is on FB under that name. I think the 88x also ran at Reading at times .

 

That's great Hank! I don't have the Facebook or I'd check out the club page!

 

Here is some inspiration for you.

I saw this car in 2004 at Gary Wolford's shop. It was Gary's car that he drove at Reading in 1960.
He found the car rusting away in a field and it took 5 years, but he restored it back to it's glory.





Gary also restored this car about 15 years ago. The #199, with Gary at the wheel won the 50 lap finale at the Reading Fairgrounds in 1962 and ended the flathead era at the track
I remember the race well as Gary came on late to take the win over Shorty Kerschner.

Gary was a great guy, my friend, and good racer. Sadly, he p***ed away in August 2016.

 

What a great car. I am sorry to hear of the loss of your friend! @Al Consoli I really appreciate all the contributions you had made to this thread!

 

Ever since I saw this thread I've been looking for the pictures I took of your car in 2005 at one of the old timers reunions. The owner brought the car up to Reading from North Carolina, I think, shortly after it was restored. I guess my photos were lost when my old computer crashed and I hadn't saved them on an external drive....... I give up !
Anyhow..... I think you should try to contact Mike Grim http://www.mikegrims.com/ ...
Mike owns a truck restoration business but has also restored a number of old race cars. He was one of the founders of the Reading Fairgrounds Historical Society, and he probably would know about everything you need to know about the car you have. I think he likely has some photos too.
GOOD LUCK !

 

Just saw this thread. Cool find man!

 

Glad to see that you've been getting some great help and advice on this thread. Amazing the connection that the H.A.M.B. can produce.

Looking forward to seeing this project evolve!


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Thank you Al! Every bit of info helps so much! I'll give Mike a shout!

Thanks Trent!

Thanks Shaun! The HAMB is the best resource on the webernets!

 

Russ Delp in 2009

 

Another great picture @Al Consoli! I have tried to contact a couple of people through my wife's Facebook account to see if they are related to Russ but I haven't heard anything yet. I also contacted Mike Grim to see if he has any leads on the more recent history of the car.

I haven't done much with her lately other than get some tubes put in the rear tires until I figure out what to do about back dating the rolling stock a bit.

Also, I keep looking at this pic and I really like the hood. Looks like a '36 car hood and I rembered seeing a couple on Craigslist not too far from me so...



I snagged them!


Not bad?


Can anyone place the radiator that is in the B&W pic? It was obviously replaced at some time but I'd like to find a closer match than what is on it currently.

 

Most of the cars used large truck radiators from the junkyard, for the larger capacity because they didn't run a fan (robs h.p.) .

 

Great story, good luck !

 

That makes sense. I'd like to find a closer match than what is on it currently though it does look serviceable. I think it needs to move back in the ch***is a bit but I'll know better once I get the engine st in place.

Thanks for checking it out!

 

Does anyone know if parts still available for these Frankland brakes?
I ran out of time yesterday to delve any deeper. I ***ume there is just a standard castle nut/ bearing arrangement. Did the Frankland hubs use their own bearings or would it just be the standard ford pieces? (Ford spindles)

 

Cactus1, its been 17 years since I played with any circle track stuff, but if I remember right your right front bearings and seal well be the same as your quick change hubs. It should be 3/4 ton truck rear parts. (maybe) By the picture it looks like your right front is a "bolt on" snout over the stock Ford spindle and when you take the dust cover off you should see a large nut and a lock plate to keep your bearing in place. The brakes should be Buick parts. Speedway Motors should have parts if needed. Bob

 

^ What Bob said.

You probably know this, but they used to bolt the snout of a 3/4 ton to create a "safety hub", so the wheel couldn't come off. Around here, it was required that the right front was a safety hub. Left front, with a p***enger car spindle/brakes, would run without a dust cap, just a Dixie cup taped over it.... I forget the reason though haha. I'll have to ask an old timer.

Bearings/seals are common, search for wide 5. After the success of the Banjo style quickchanges, racers started adapting the plentiful and more robust Ford (Timken supplied?) split-bell 3/4 ton axles. It took two rear-ends to make one, but they worked well. Guess the original Ford style bearings were adequate, because they're the same ones used in quickchanges today.

 

You guys rock! Thanks for the lesson!

 

I had not heard back from the AACA after I emailed back in January so I decided to give them a call last week. It turns out that Lynn has retired so I talked to Steve Moscowitz who has taken over her duties. He had some info for me and I ended up joining the AACA so they could send to me the file on the car. It was registered with them in 2003 by a Mr. Jack Wenger as a 1961 Stock car. He purchased the car already "restored" and within the file there are the names of the previous owners so hopefully I can get ahold of them and get some pre-restoration pics?

This is a picture from 1961 ...



These are the pics Mr. Wenger provided of the restored racer.


Pretty neat!

 

I'm happy that you are getting more info.

Are going to restore it as the flathead or modified ? If you go for the flathead, a more accurate restoration would not have the tube shocks. They all ran the lever shocks. I'm sure of that.

 

Thanks Al! Me too!

I'm going to go back with the flathead (at least for the time being.) I agree on the shocks. I have yet to find any pics of the whole car when it had the flathead so hopefully that will change with this new info?

Thanks again for all of your contributions to my search!

 

Looking forward to some updates. I find it so awesome that you have a car Tommy Hinner****z actually laid his gifted paws on at one time.

 

seeing this thread reminds me of what i grew up with. glad to see your restoring her back! this history needs to be kept! good job.

 

I'm loving this thread and history lesson.

 

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This would be so fun! I've been trying to go for years and it always sneaks up on me. If I can get my S*?#% together maybe I can make it!

 

Delp wins on a tragic night, June 8, 1962.




Coincidently, Dave Cordier, the other driver involved in the accident, p***ed away last week.

 

I was there that night! You could not miss him coming out thru the roof. He was a big guy. Sorry to hear about Dave Cordier.

 

I was in Wildwood that weekend and did not see it. Unfortunately, my dad took me to the races the night in '53 when Ringy Lloyd and Bobby Rolland died.

 

Thanks for that newspaper clipping @Al Consoli! I don't know how you keep coming up with this stuff?!

A very tragic night that night. Sad indeed.

Any idea what that shirt is that Delp is wearing? Looks like a '34 3w doesn't it?