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Technical Floor shifter for my 50 Ford

Discussion in 'Traditional Customs' started by Ed Kasperek, Mar 9, 2017.

  1. Finding out that locating a floor shifter for my stock 50 Ford 3 speed is not a easy task

    what do you guys do? Find a old Hurst shifter body & fab the rest?

    Tks for suggestions/info
    ed
     
  2. 302GMC
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    Believe it or not, your column shift parts can be converted to a decent shifter. Rodding & Restyling magazine (mid - '59 ?) has the article if someone would post it for you ...
     
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  3. tubman
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    The problem here is if your car has overdrive or not. You can find shifters (from new Chinese crap to a used Hurst) that will fit IF you do not have overdrive. The overdrive solenoid sits right where the shifter mechanism wants to live which makes it difficult to install a regular floorshift kit. I was lucky enough to score a NOS Fenton floorshift kit for '49-'62 Fords with overdrive. It raises the shifter mechanism above the solenoid for clearance. Now you have a problem with the shifter mechanism clearing the trans tunnel, and you either have to live with a huge hole in your floor or fabricate a sheet metal housing for it. I think I have the illustrated instructions for that shifter around somewhere; let me know if you would like to see them, as they are quite informative.

    I remember the article about converting the stock column shifter well, because I was interested in doing it to the '51 I had in high school. It required welding and a bit of fabrication that was beyond my pay grade in those days. Finding another column shift mechanism if you need it might be problematic.
     
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  4. flatheadpete
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    Years ago, a friend had a '49. He found an old universal Hurst 3-spd shifter at a swapmeet that we fab'd brackets for. It was fairly easy, looked good and worked smoothly.
     
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  5. Todd's Rod's
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    in the old days and I mean old we use two shifter handles from a something that was chrome built a plate that mounted to the tail shaft bolts with a strap and a muffler clamp for support very near the out put shaft. then welded the handles to a piece of tubing that slide over a shaft welded to the bolt on plate one handle for 1st/reverse the other for 2nd/3rd. so start out in 1st shift to neutral the other lever to 2nd we used to be pretty good at it after grinding some metal. like I said real old old school it you would like a diagram let me know. best bet find a 3 speed shifter on ebay or at a swap meet and make it work
     
  6. rudestude
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    Found these thought it might get you some part numbers I just might have that article on building a floor shift using column shift parts if I find it I will post it...[​IMG][​IMG]

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  7. scrap metal 48
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    Nothing prettier than 49/50 column shift lever and column drop...
     
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  8. Put an 8 ball knob on the stock column shifter and you have 85% of the floor shift sizzle.
    Just sayin'.
     
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  9. rudestude
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    Found the Rodding and Re-styling March 1960 vol. 7 No.1
    These pics are of the article hopefully this helps....[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

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  10. Jalopy Joker
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    yep, stay away from cheapo foreign built shifters - in High School had a '50 with a floor shifter that the shift arm would easily snap off going from 1st to 2nd- lucky that it threaded in and could be replaced inside
     
  11. does anyone have any info on using a STOCK 49 col. Shift with a TH350.
    I assume just make some linkage up??

    thanks for the help HAMBers
     
  12. 19Fordy
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    Keep it 3 on-the-tree for the "cool" factor of being original.
     
  13. tubman
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    Plus, it also acts as an "Anti-Theft" feature!
     
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  14. One thing to remember is that the floor is very tight at the top of the transmission. Soooo if using aftermarket arms they will not clear the floor. A floor modification is in order. I do have a Hurst Syncro lock if you want it. PM me if you do.
     
  15. WoW..... you guys are awesome. Tks for all the info here
     
  16. Torchie
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    The King shifter is still being made by the guy that invented it.
    Do a search here on the hamb.
    Torchie
     
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  17. green53ford
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    I did that column conversion on my 53 ford in 1960. It had a kind of flimsy feeling.
     
  18. 1pickup
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    I posted pics on how I did my '49 Merc w/ OD on a thread before, but searched & didn't find it. Maybe you'll have better luck using the search function. Did have to shorten the original shift arms on the trans.
     
  19. Kan Kustom
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    My brother put a Sparkomatic floor shifter in his 50 Ford back in the day. I would say don't use one but I doubt you could even find one that is not all bent up. It had the smallest shift rods I had ever seen.
     
  20. Well, there's a coincidence, I did it on my '50 in 1960. Actually did work but like you say, felt a little flimsy.
     
  21. dan c
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    the "speed king" shifter looks like the one i put in my first car, a '53 ford. it worked, but poorly. i bought it for about ten bucks at the local hardware; a foxcraft shifter was available and obviously of better quality, but $25 was a lot of dough when i was 17!
     
  22. overspray
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  23. Fusbc
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    I also did this with a universal Hurst 3 speed shifter that I got for $40 off eBay. Like the one in this picture
     

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  24. mercjoe
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    Any idea who that user is ?

     
  25. BigRRR
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    Put a 3-speed Indy Hurst in my father's 50 Merc way back when. I assume would be the same as 50 Ford?
     
  26. tubman
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    Since your setup is from a truck, it is possible that one of the currently available generic "Truck Shifters" may just be an easy installation. Check eBay.
     
  27. I have this if interested came off a 53 Studebaker 3 speed 50 bucks and shipping DSCN1473.JPG
     
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  28. HEATHEN
    Joined: Nov 22, 2005
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    I'm not sure what the floor shifter situation is in Argentina, but around here, used Hurst three speed shifters are both plentiful and relatively cheap. I see them at every swap meet I attend. Anyone with a minimum amount of fabrication skill can cobble up a mounting bracket.
     

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