HUBBA HUBBA my 32-4 Tudor tribute to Gramps

Holes! Gotta love holes. Gives it that lakes racer kinda vibe, especially with the m***ive chop.

 

M***ive? That's what she said, but it's only 6". Man I hope this remark isn't received as too lewd. I actually believe in being PC but love a good laugh from time to time.
Thanks Matt I know there weren't any Lakes Tudors in the day but that is the look I'm after. I also know rolling bones has mastered all this first so I'm just another poser. Remember the reason for the sedan instead of 3w is multiple fold. 1... space for the family, 2... Gramps's Hubba Hubba was a Tudor, 3... simple poor folk economics man.

Oh yeah and I think Tudors are cool


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Tried to get back on it today.
I have to get the header of my roof straight before I can put the inner bracing back in.

So I started on some hammer and dolly work. Its coming out pretty good except for a high spot from my low grade pay metal smithing skills. I think it will take a good few hours of me being serious and focused. I also did a little heat shrinking for the oil can factor. That worked out awesome since I think I might have done this once or twice bout 20 years ago.
The inner brace needs some patchwork quilting.

Working on its skin-graft and making sure I have room for the ignition/mag kill switch. I'm making a small cover cause originals are a fortune and you know I got to leave the cool holes visible.
There are three major areas of fear and concern on my body that have me almost waking from a cold sweat in the night. One is the wheel wells. Two the little corner piece that meets the rear valance

But most of all this part of the windshield opening

I think this is going to require a shrinker/stretcher along with the bead roller to fabricate. That tool could help with this little guy as well

Can't believe I haven't got around to the wood yet. Well yeah can I guess I have to wait till the roof is on. Part of me almost wants to do it in metal just so I can add more aircraft inspired holes, lol.
I just really really want to see the slammed top on already dag nabbit!


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An ***ortment of beating irons and some creativity should get all that figured out no problem. Shrinker is nice though.

 

Hey Wyatt is today your birthday?

 

Ha,ha, it sure feels like today. What's that old advertising slogan? "You meet the nicest people on the HAMB"
For those who seem to feel the world is loaded with total strokes, like I do. Once in a while a fellow like Bruce comes along. The guy just sincerely seems to want to help the scene. My Presents that I'm very excited about but probably don't deserve.

Original and freshened 1940 column lock cylinder and key. I will go get one of my Hurd keys cut for it pronto. Nos rod bearing, I think I'm more pumped about the box, it's wicked cool.

Pedal to clutch linkage and support!

Bonus poster that I was about to hang in the garage then my son saw it and is trying to claim it for his room, 4 year olds can be so demanding.
And the best surprise of them all

A small collection of photos of The Godfather himself Elmer, my hero.


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I worked out the roof as much as I want to bother. It still has a little crowning that is just out of my wheelhouse or patience. It will still require about as little filler to blend as I've ever used. Just can't seem to get the high area down. I had good results with all the smaller high spots and lows. There just is a general raised area that is probably my fault from initially knocking out a couple big dents from the inside in too much of a hurry.

Tonight if I put this panel back in you might see me applying the roof real soon

I was going to replicate the rusted metal with a fair degree of accuracy. Then said what the hell I'm going to cover that part with a panel for the gauges and ignition anyways so why bother. So I knocked this out pretty fast and prepped the inside of the roof too. I have no qualms with this drilled hole section, that will be left exposed, being so pitted. I'm not trying to hide my cars age. Just weaving it in and out in a semi-controlled manner. This pitting is probably the ugliest spot that anyone will see. The inside of the frame rails being the other notorious ugly mutha.
I may run a wiper motor and one arm and then find out I should of ran the patch through the bead roller. Which again I don't have the money for. Every time I see someone's shop with a Baileigh I'm reminded of what a low life I am.


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I grab that poster at the gnrs in pomona. They were giving them away and it's james car from Metallica . So i figured you might like it. The box and pictures are for the walls. And be carefull with the lock cylinder. I put that tape in there because the caps for the pins are loose. My key guy didn't have the right ones. I would leave the tape on and trim the back and install it just like that. The bearing is used so just toss it. Keep the box is cool. That clutch set up is for a 40 xmember but you should be able to make it work with the 34. I will get that fan out to you soon. Now get back to work.

 

Thanks so much Paintslinger! I'll get a little something out to you. This is all too kind. Don't forget you already gave me that awesome 33 steering for my PU dude. I can't keep excepting someone's kindness, even if it clearly is helping with their hoarding problem[emoji6]


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Hoarder me! Never "IM a collector" of junk.lol look at the junk I found on the side of the road today. Just laying there.

 

Hey a harbour freight bead roller is a pile of **** but with a few mods will work. I have one. It works.

 

If I get my top to fall on as good as @flatnasty I'll be one very happy camper indeed.

Brad has really knocked out something amazing that is a huge influence.
I've been reading back through a few of my chop heros threads today in preparation for the complex A-pillar work.


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Wyatt you have that right about Bruce being one of the good guys. I sure had a great time hanging with him last summer during TROG. Plus I even got to meet Elmer and that was a real highlight as he is a cool dude. I could listen to his story's for hours.
Now get back to work...

 

This is mildly off topic but pretty cool to me.
You know how some people will tell you the same stories over and over again, not realizing you've heard it before and retained it. Grandparents can be the worst at this. I don't know if it's the age or as their list of people they communicate with grows and grows they just can't keep track. Another theory is you get the big stories or the stuff they're most proud of or maybe the the things that left great impact on them and others.
Well my Grandpa's mom used to tell me, us, or everyone of her wilder rebel youth. To the best of my recollection she was born in 1909. So I know that the extent of this was early roaring twenties fodder as far as women were concerned. She basically would go on and on about how things were in her day and how she was part of the wave that went against all that. Like she always told us how ladies didn't go in saloons, smoke in public if they smoked at all, skirt length, bathing suit rules, and expected hair styles, you know the yarn. But mostly I remember her always proudly talking about how girls weren't post to be on motorcycles. She would have to quietly sneak her way a Chicago German neighborhood block over to meet up with her date or friends that rode. It was paramount that her parents not find out what type of chinnanagins she was up to. I did not know to what level my great grandma was active in early motorcycling until my wife noticed this pic on my cousins FB page.

She is 15 here and that would place it around 1924-25. This is her all done up in club uniform. I don't know if she was involved with my great grandfather then but he was a motorcyclist. His fifteen minutes of fame came from being a bike messenger and making a delivery in the morning to the scene of the infamous St.Valentines Day M***acre. In the original movie there is a scene that depicts this type of situation but it has no relevance to my Great Gramps. I was told he wasn't there as close as to when the shooting happened and that would have to have been of another messenger making another delivery. Still eerie, to think he was there the day that happened.
Sadly Great Grandma grew out of her troublesome ways and settled down, married Great Gramps and raised eight children, was a wonderful grandmother, and quietly p***ed away in 1996 when I was 23. I was proud to know her and thankful for her part in my being here and who I am.
I only bring up this stuff because of the rebellious ties between early motorcycling and hot rods. Of course it's also part of my Gramp's history, it being his mother and all. Funny, she and Great Gramps were motorcyclists, as are me, my father, and probably my kids. I've never heard mention of my Grandpa riding though. But since he had the A-bone named Hubba Hubba he still seems pretty alright in my book and most likely most of yours.



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I think this is kinda funny. I went to pop my roofs header support bracing in and remembered I hadn't solved the problem of one side of the windshield hinge captured nuts being gone. Lots of Swiss cheese in this bracing. But if you saw how much a replacement costs you'd understand why I'm using it.

It should have this

Time to make my own. Start with a little 18g s**** and tin snips.

Draw and cut a bunch of lines

Fold, fold, fold.


Well then I realize also that I don't have any fine thread square nuts. So I weld onto some regular six points and lightly grind them.


Weld her to the header support

Protect and start tacking the whole contraption back in the roof

I foolishly left too much paint on the edge and will grind more off before welding it all the way. I did set the front half of the roof on the car. It needs quite a bit out of the A-pillars so it wasn't worth taking a pic to show.


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Neat story about your great grandma. Nice when you have family who cares about history.

 

Just starting to get my bearings here.

My windshield is now cut down to having 5 7/8" of gl*** at the center. I do not want to p*** this up. I still like the door opening. So the front needs to still come down. And that would be without any angle chop to the roof. There also is the tug of war not leaning the post back too far. But still tilting them for the speedy look and accommodating the windshield size. The header seems to be bulging upward. There's a pretty decent arc in the insert channel. I still have to repair a lot of this. The roof also will come off a few time for some finish work. For starters there's s nasty rip/rust out high in both A-pillars.


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it's starting to take shape, looking good.

 

Haven't been on in a while. Looking good. I enjoyed watching you build the cage nuts. Good stuff.
My grandma rode too. Got lots of black and white pictures of her in her riding garb. In fact, I own her Harley leather coat. She told me they rode because bikes were cheaper than cars. They were Harley enthusiast. I guess Indian was a bad word around the family. I still would like to see
your in-progress work one of these days.

 

Thanks! I think it looks really good from the front the way the roof silhouette goes with top of the grill, hood, and cowl. It seems proportioned well but it doesn't look low enough yet. Again there is 5.5" out of the B-pillar. The front still has to come down at least a 1/2-1" to sleekin it up. It looks really fat in the header/a-pillar area from the side right now. This also could be from the lower part of the doors and rocker not being there yet. I keep using the overhang of the subrails to help my squinty eye visualization.


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I know Rick, I haven't forgot ya. It's just real tuff to coordinate with me. I have no official "Hot Rod time" all my work is basically snuck in here and there. Probably once winter breaks I'll hit you up.
Oh you'll definitely be helping pull the body off for paint that for sure. That's what you get for speaking up,[emoji51]


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On the windshield flange.

Being a m***ive tight *** i tend to look for the way that spends more time than money to fix the issue.

I'd wonder if could couldn't take a piece of sheet metal, brake it to 90 or whatever the angle is with a longer half and a shorter half.

You'll weld the shorter half to the header and the longer half is your flange.

Make a template of your curves and go after it with a cut off wheel and lots of eye protection. Get your curve and then weld it up. If your already welding little stuff up it may take less time than you shrinking the curve and then hammering it flat.

Test fit and tweak as needed.

If the rounded area needs patched I'd lean toward the idea of a hammer form. Don't replace the whole section at once just make the smallest patch panel you can and splice it in.

I'm 50/50 on weather I'd do that first or do the flange first. The flange will keep it all in line when you cut it for the curved patches but may make it harder to weld up.

Anyhow, I think do that and then find a piece of pipe or shape a piece of wood that fits in the back of the curved area that's just long enough that you can fit it in about any area of the header. To long and the arc isn't going to let you slide it on down the line.

Anyhow, weld your patch in and then stick your form behind the patch and the none patched area and hammer until it's uniform.

It's a lot of words but it's a pretty simple way of taking little bites.

Oh, and eye protection

 

Well Tim thanks for the advice, now PISS off! Just kidding good idea but...
I am bad with money when it comes to my addictive personality and my extreme p***ions or projects. This will either have George wanting to kill me or I better pull a rabbit out of ye'ol'bum immediately. I spent the bulk of the money I was saving to buy the 4speed and bellhousing for my 32 PU on a Wooodward bead roller, some tipping dies, skate board wheel, steel plate for reinforcement, and a Shrinker/Stretcher/Stand ***embly. I'm beefing up the bead roller and deciding between running a steering wheel on it or putting a motor on. The Shrinker/Stretcher happened sorta by accident. I went by HF looking for a stand to save time and modify for the bead roller. They where having a tent sale. I had been thinking on all things metal shaping. Went to check out their S/S and low in behold they're discontinuing their S/S unit. They had just the floor model left there all marked down about $100. I wouldn't have another shot in the foreseeable future getting one of these. I pulled the trigger before even thinking it through as far as spending money I've promised already to a good guy, now I got to dig deep.
The Shrinker/Stretcher works awesome! I had been watching lots of videos lately and one I saw on modifying cheap S/S s to function better or at all showed problem areas I might have. Alas I was shocked to see this HF has none of these issues. It has nice long pull and squeeze. The jaws meet up nice and square and maybe need a little lube but operate smoothly as is. Good on me.
The windshield opening is two 90s with the top most ridge that actually meets the roof panel having a rolled bead like edge. The other corners are normal fold corners so not so big a deal. I was going to build my own brake to do the 90s before Shrinking and Stretching the ends but my friend has a good brake I could use. But since I saw needing the tipping dies on so many other parts of the car, like my grill bars for starters, I went ahead and ordered those even if they almost cost as much as the bead roller itself.
Now if I can just replace the money for the transmission stuff I will then work on getting a English Wheel. If I get a wheel and make my wheel wells or crown a roof insert, it will even out the investment on all three of these tools. I definitely didn't spend all this money just to do the windshield problem. I would have just did something like you described or found a replacement roof section.
I probably shouldn't have bought these tools now. In the end I know it will work out as a cost savings move. But right now it's bad timing. I gave my word to a HAMBr and already have delayed over two months are agreement. Not to mention the delay has been from big medical bills($4000 after Ins.!) and prescription($1900 after Ins.!) costs that I occurred since falling in love with a vintage manual trans and ****ter-shield for the other project I shouldn't be messing with.
Damn I talk too much but I have no friends just two 4yr olds and two old Fords.[emoji851]


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Money spent on tools is never waisted. I generally finish the job that would have gone 100 times faster if I'd bought a tool before I buy said tool and then have no use for it for another year lol

 

Tools rock!

 

How many worms came in that can you opened.

 

Not to one up you, but since HF were clearancing their metal tools,,,,,,,,,I managed to land a planishing hammer and stand for 34 bucks. I thought that just happened to other people!

 

I don't know if it was digging for some tools to help the wife with one of her art projects or this pic, damn, something told me I need to clean the garage again.





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Hell I think it makes for a kick *** photo right there....

 

Yea great picture. I agree. Poster when?