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HUBBA HUBBA my 32-4 Tudor tribute to Gramps

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Runnin shine, Jul 15, 2015.

  1. 383deuce
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    With ya all the way on the poster Bruce....
     
  2. Runnin shine
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    Thanks bros, your too kind.
    Coming from a artsy fartsy household, all I see is grainy zoomed in out of focus iPhone photography, probably with a little Kroil on the lens.
    Then again maybe I do see a little potential for something that could look sinister in there as well?


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  3. Runnin shine
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    A little redundant but for you three guys that like the last pic. This is without all the tools on the hood, the roof/ header area lowered 3/8" and I threw the unfinished grill insert on cause it helps me visualize where I'm going.
    [​IMG]
    Mostly I'm just modifying the bead roller right now. I'll probably knock out the grill shutters finally.



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  4. Ok Wyatt now we need one more. Get rid of the the water jugs and the blanket on the motors. Put your intake carbs on and shoot again.. Then we see right where your going.:)
     
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  5. CURSED GEARS
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    That thing looks like if you put your fingers to close to the grill, they get bit off!
     
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  6. Runnin shine
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    Thanks, too bad that from the side view it looks fat and lazy. I had set the roof on once just to see where I'm at. It's not even close to being ready to go on permanent.
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    To me it doesn't even looked chopped at all with the roof on. The A-pillars are around 7-8 degrees leaned back.



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  7. 383deuce
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    I like Bruce's idea about moving the blanket & jugs then re- shoot. & I think the chop shot from the side is starting to grow on me. I think I would move on to bring the rest into play and see where it takes you as far as profile...
     
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  8. Dick Stevens
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    There are more than 3 guys that liked the picture, just 3 that posted that they did!
     
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  9. kidcampbell71
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    Dude. You rule ! Side shot is murder. Frekn' love it. *****in', Wyatt !
     
  10. CURSED GEARS
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    Its hard to get the full effect on the sides with the back on jack stands, but it looks chopped on the sides to me.
    BTW, is that a Krate bike hanging from your rafters?
     
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  11. dumprat
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    Maybe drop the back part of the roof down a touch?
     
  12. Runnin shine
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    No, they're both Stingrays, the black one is just a modern reissue. The green is my wife's vintage fastback five speed.


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    Ah! Mrs Clause bought me one of those reissues a few years ago for Christmas.
     
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  14. Runnin shine
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    Matt, the way I've gone at things is been hard to keep track of where I'm at.
    Since you've followed the entire thread and your part of the reason it will probably hit 100k posts,lol. You may recall I started with a safe 3.5" cut. This quickly became street rod looking but not hot rod at all. So eventually I took a extra inch from the B-pillars, 3/4" from the back, and I think 5/8" from the front. Then before I cut the body apart for mol***es I took another 1" from the B-pillars again.
    Upon starting to put her back together I've removed 1 1/4" from the A-pillar and then 3/8". This is tricky math cause of the lean back. I have also now taken another 3/4" from the back.
    So it roughly is 5" out back, 5.5" at the middle, and 5 3/4" at the A-pillars without taking the lay back into account. So maybe the Front is like 6".
    This is counting the material the cut-off wheel takes with it.
    Savvy?


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  15. greaser
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    I like where your headed with this. Going to be a knockout when done.
    I think the lower frame cover under the door and quarter may be attributing to the "fat and lazy" look you are describing. Not sure what you have in mind for the completed look in that area.
     
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  16. Runnin shine
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    Greaser, those plates are my home made sub rail over hang. As you probably know a 33/34 has a substantial amount of built in "channel". As she sits these are only a 1/2" to 1" to low at best(more at the front since the body line sweeps up). I will be t******* them back as I install the rockers and lower quarter patches. The goal though is to not have it as far down as a model 40 but it will be down further than a 32 3w.
    Actually it seems my doors may be 1/4"
    to a 1/2" shorter than a 32 when finished off. It all can be a big head scratcher considering I just said the rockers hang lower on the frame than a 32. I'm trying to keep the concave portion of the reveal exposed.
    After all the work I did to bring this frame up out from under them daisies I'd hate to hide it.
    Thanks for the feed back. I hope some day I can take everyone for a spin.


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  17. Runnin shine
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    Try not to focus on how my pants seem to be falling off my *** as bad as the bottom the Tudor. I guess I have taken it down a little since picking it up, the car not my Levi's.
    [​IMG]
    Lol, total ****.


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    guys with cool cars aren't ****s..............at least that is what i keep telling myself.
     
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  19. dumprat
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    I get where you are going, but my thought is this.

    If you look at the pic of you in your big pants the top of the windows has a curved shape to it. Your in the shop side view seems to be missing this curve.

    But it may just be a weird optical illusion.
     
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  20. Tim
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    I'd rattle can the 90 roof pieces one color so you can see the shape more accurately. I'd also roll it outside and take a look from not inside your garage before I cut it up anymore
     
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  21. Tim
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    Also from someone who over thinks everything I think your over thinking it.

    But I give you points for using the word Savy lol
     
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  22. Speedy Canuck
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    It's come a long way. And currently, it definitely looks chopped. I think the cut in the roof throws the eye off of how the chop looks. Since you plan to haul the family in this thing, I'd be hesitant to chop it any more than you already have. :)
     
  23. Runnin shine
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    Man AJ, I got all excited when I noticed you changed your avatar. I thought maybe you finished the garage and we're working on your PU again. Then remembered the pic from early in your thread cause of that cool hyrdro stick.


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    Your excitement isn't completely unfounded... The garage is finished. Insulated, organized, sorted, etc. I've scrounged up some p***ion and drive to get working on the pickup again. Bed is off, I'm in the process of finishing up some details on the frame in preparation for primer and paint. Nothing worthwhile to update my thread with, but give me a month ;)
     
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  25. Runnin shine
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    @dumprat I have looked her over today a little. It appears I can maybe only drop the rear about 1/4" to get the "drip rail" line to even out. Also after stepping back and walking around a bit I feel the Canuck is right. I think I will have to leave it around this amount of chop. It does look aggressive from the front. There's not much windshield left to look out of. I'm not happy with the quarter gl*** opening. It doesn't look "lakes" chop. The rear window isn't "mail slot" either.
    I new this could be a problem with a Tudor with the roof running back so far. I'll keep pushing but I suppose I won't know if I'll succeed with my goals until the car is finished. I have to remind myself that it is more important to me the the car seems to be built in 46-48 than weather it's the most radical thing around.
    Other builds on the HAMB have a way of making you dig deep or should I say cut deep.



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  26. Speedy Canuck
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    I think you're a little too close to the build :p

    From where I'm sitting, I'd say that's a pretty radical chop for a street driven tudor in the 46-48 time period. For a compe***ion only car, sure you've got another inch or two you can whack out of it, but for something that's going to be practical on the street, I'd say you've about nailed your goals.

    Keep in mind, people still have to be able to get into the back seat, and kids are only going to grow. :)
     
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  27. Runnin shine
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    Thanks again for your awesome feedback. You and most of these guys have calmed me down these last two days.
    I've never really locked in my B.S. Pitch for why this build is the way it is. That being said this may help some of you with a bit of my mishmash. I either want the car to appear that it saw racing duty that took it away from the street more than the original builder had anticipated or it came off the track and started seeing a cleanup of its edges. The chrome, shiny engine compartment pieces, and interior flourishings. Te me, these shout out show car even if on a introductory level.
    Some race contradictions that may be quickly pointed out might be the rear gas tank, back seat, column shift, or open roof until I get a louvered insert going.
    I personally have been the lead saboteur in multiple builds that evolve out of the initial intentions from getting hooked on a new direction.


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  28. dumprat
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    When in doubt just keep going. Based on tradition not all cars were nicely built, smooth straight and they all had lumps and bumps that some guys work way too hard to iron out these days.

    They were kids high school chasing girls cars. Not coach built one off rich guy builds. I know what I drove in high school and it wasn't straight, or perfect by any stretch. But I built it and I had a lot of fun in it.
     
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  29. Runnin shine
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    I absolutely concur Matt. Don't even get me started on my non-waning love of my first cars. My stuff certainly wasn't refined or finished for that matter. Most emphasis on speed and replacing rear tire's. I literally grew up in the generation of smokey and the bandit/ dukes of hazard where we posi-traction ***isted slid dirt track style around city streets. Right down town infact even past the police station long before drifting became main stream. I recall getting pulled over for this only one time, right on "Main Street", no ticket. Try that stupid hi jinx nowadays. Stories of my youth make most people cry bull larky so I don't waist my time repeating much of them. My mature adult side is even embarr***ed to retell the bulk of them, yada yada yada.
    Now for the first part of your statement... this Victoria comes to mind
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    I do plan to have less worn paint but the general tone of this pic is pleasing to my taste. You can't help notice that the cowl side is not very straight yet the overall look of the thing is still cool.



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  30. Tim
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    Aaron Grote built that, and it looks like a John Jackson photo if your looking for more of this specific car :)
     
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