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Technical 39 ford headlights in a 40

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by corkym, Apr 17, 2017.

  1. corkym
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    I see 1937 ford headlights in 40 fords, if you use the 37-39 deluxe headlight bucket does it fit the 40 ford fender or do you alter it ? comments appreciated.
     

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  2. Sheep Dip
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    I actually asked the Bob Drake Rep that question at Turlock this last January.
    According to him they bolt right in with no mods required, I have not tested this myself but do have a buddy building a 40 PU right now and he has purchased 39 buckets.....we shall see.

    It's a personal choice but I think the 39 lights are way better looking than the 40's as the seem to follow the fender lines to give a better overall appearance to me.

    If his go in with no problem I just may change my 40's to 39's cause I like em!
     
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  3. I have done it in the past and they fit like a glove HRP
     
  4. 40Standard
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    drops right in
     
  5. Always the odd ball, if I had a '39, the first thing I'd do is try to make it look like a '40. Guess that's why I don't have any friends.
     
  6. The '39 lights have poorer optics and won't put as much light on the road.
     
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  7. Awwwww I like ya.:)

    I got an idea that the lights from a '39 Standard would not be an easy fit in a '40 but the '39 deluxe should work just fine. Unless I am mistaken the '39 deluxe and the '40 standard have the same fenders. Actually I would have to see a '39 deluxe and a '40 standard side by side to tell the difference in the two.
     
  8. Gee, somebody likes me? Let's do lunch.
     
  9. OK then meet you in Grand Junction. We can watch the prairie dogs from the Micky Ds window. :D
     
  10. 302GMC
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    Sticking older parts on a newer car seldom worked. Rare exception would be Desoto bumpers on '40 Ford. That's how it used to be, but nowdays, the ol' "change for the sake of a change" has sadly returned.
    Why anyone would change the frontal appearance of a '40 DeLuxe escapes me ...
     
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  11. Gotgas
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    I bet you'd try to make a '33 look like a '34 too, wouldn't ya?! You monster.
     
  12. the-rodster
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    Even Rudy dug it with his 40 Merc....

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  13. IMG_1855.JPG They screw/bolt right in.
     
  14. Now that you mention it...................... but fortunately my '34 was genuine.
     
  15. The37Kid
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    Let's take this a bit further, you have a 1940 Ford and want to put a 1939 Deluxe nose on it. You need the '39 hood and grille, are the fenders the same or different to fit the '39 hood? Bob
     
  16. The 39 guy
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    You are seeing 39 Deluxe headlights on 40 Fords. 37,38 and 39 standard are a different shape to fit the earlier fenders.
    Although 39 Deluxe fenders do differ from 40 deluxe the actual area the headlight bucket fits in is the same.
    40 Fender and 39 fender modified.jpg
    The headlight buckets between 39 deluxe and 40 differ in several ways. The stainless headlight ring attachments are different and the light bulb assembly differs The 39 deluxe halogen headlight kit (spendy) works well. but as stated here still does not produce as much light as a 40 sealed beam headlight. I had trouble getting the glass to fit also. They say they are all the same but I had to try a few before I got the lens to fit.

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    39 Deluxe 40 Ford

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    This halogen kit listed at $360 I have had it in use for 10 years without a problem. I do run them on high at all times without anyone flashing me to turn them down. You want to use a headlight relay with them too.
     
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  17. The 39 guy
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    That would be the best way to do it Bob. A 40 standard hood would fit though. I was involved in a discussion awhile back about the difference in the crown or beak of the of the 39 deluxe and 40 Standard. I think the 39 Deluxe lays back a little more. See post 79 for the difference in the fenders.
     
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  19. theHIGHLANDER
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    And I'd go the other way, make a 34 look 33. But I'm goofy like that. 34 grille to bulky, 33 delicate and sexy. 34 hood to 'commercial' looking with it's straight louvers, 33 sweeps to match the grill. 33 Victoria has the sweet lil bustle to the back, 34 looks like a flat-back 35-6-7. See? Told you I was goofy...:eek:

    Oh yeah, 1 more. The 34s have that fucky looking metal channel at the back of the door window. The function is kool but the channel, not so much.
     
  20. The37Kid
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    1933 Ford Vicky, one of the nicest looking cars Ford ever made. Bob
     
  21. LOU WELLS
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    A much older friend was around when the new 1940 Ford came out and said there were complaints that the sealed beam headlights were too bright compared to the previous 1939.......
     
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  22. corkym
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  23. corkym
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    thank u so much
     
  24. The 39 guy
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    You are welcome.
     
  25. neilswheels
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    A friend of mine has just done this on his 40 dlx, went straight in
     

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