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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by chainsaw, Apr 26, 2017.

  1. chainsaw
    Joined: Aug 22, 2006
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    Anyone know Ray Rust from Australia ? He called about my car on craigslist,I didnt answer. Then he texted and emailed me said he wanted the car and had a shipper in California. I emailed back and said no thanks ,cash only ,local pickup only. He said his shipper will bring cash. He offered 1500 less then my price with no questions about the car. He keeps email and texting even after I said no. Its got to be a scam but if they bring cash what am I missing Thanks.
     
  2. stangman05gt
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    from illinois

    If the shipper has the cash its a scam.
     
  3. 40FORDPU
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    Trust your instincts.
     
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  4. rjones35
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    Sounds like a scam of some sort.
     
  5. alchemy
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    I would set an appointment for the shipper to come by, and have a couple of your friends over at the same time. If the shipper starts counting out cash, let him have the car. Don't take any phony bills though. Maybe meet the shipper in the bank parking lot and have the bank check the bills right then.
     
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  6. Jalopy Joker
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    cash is king only if it does not come with strange demands - if you are willing to let it go for a $1500 less price and shipper & bills are real why not - years back I sold my '47 Ford to a guy that had no questions about car and paid full price in cash, never even drove it - unique people out there
     
  7. raidmagic
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    It's hard for guys overseas to buy cars and such because of scammers. If he's (shipper) bringing cash count it out and say bye to the car.
     
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  8. Squablow
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    Scammers don't have cash. They don't leave their computer, they put very little effort in. If someone shows up with a wad of cash, have a marker pen handy and check it, but if it's real, I can't figure out how it would possibly be a scam.
     
  9. Squablow
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    For the record, I sold a couple of cars to Europe and both times I delivered them to the guy who put them in the container and that guy had the cash waiting for me, the buyer wired it to him and paid me in person. Granted, I know the shipper guy, but still, it's not unheard of for the buyer to wire the money to the shipper so they can pay in cash. No one wants to take an overseas check or **** with a bank wire transfer 12 hours out of a time zone.
     
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  10. Drylake
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    I'm in Adelaide, Australia and get similar scenarios often. People make offers via text... no questions asked... sometimes i agree on the price, they come around with the cash and the deal is done. Pretty similar to an ebay purchase i suppose. If the price works and you have the cash in your hand, done deal! Ray Rust does sound like a made up name though!

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  11. Drylake
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  12. Bleach
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    Just because someone has a FB page doesn't necessarily mean he's legit.
     
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  13. I recently had a guy want a transmission I was selling. it was a very expensive g-force manual five speed. never asked a question about it. I had a funny feeling about it. he fed-exed a check over night as he promised. I looked up the bank the check was drawn on. sure enough there was a bank by that name. I gave the bank a call giving the nine digit routing number printed on the check. my hunch was right is was fake. the latest thing going by the scammers is they have a way of delaying the way a bank finds out a check is fake. you deposit the check then wait a few days for it to clear and it does. about ten days later the bank calls to say the check was bad. its usually too late for you because the parts are gone. cash is king.
     
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  14. midroad
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    I'm an Aussie. There are a few Australian rodders who make a living importing cars and parts from the USA. Some will act on a buyers behalf to purchase cars for Aussie buyers. It saves on shipping and the car is not bought sight unseen. If the cash is real USD take it.
     
  15. X2. Ask the name of the importer, and work backwards. Many on here (me too) have used these importers, and you may be able to get more info. I have used good ones, who I would trust in a deal like this, and one I nearly got burned with. A bit more homework may result in a sale and a 2 happy rodders.
     
  16. make a deal and date if he doesn't show you know its fake. sometimes the "fake people" have money and cash always wins at the end of the day
     
  17. chainsaw
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    Thanks guys, I havent heard back from him again since I said no the second time. He also said his shipper (west coast shipping) was in Long beach then the next text he said they were in San Francisco. I have never heard of a shipper that would bring cash. I might have lost a sale just didnt want to take the chance.
     
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  18. southcross2631
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    Better safe than screwed.
     
  19. 40Standard
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    always carry some heat when making a deal
     
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  20. BigDogSS
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    Haven't you heard of "if it is on FaceBook, it must be official"? :D
     
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  21. Torana68
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    If he gets back to you again pm me his name and number and I'll see if I can check him out for you
     
  22. Nobey
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    After my Nom past away I put her 1947 short door coupe on Craig's List. Buyer contacted me from
    Australia, we agreed on a price, and his shipper would bring the money when he picks up the car.
    Shipper shows up with the cash, says the buyer will only buy for $500. less. Tried to contact the buyer
    with no success, and decided to let the guy take the car minus $500. Three days later I was able to make
    contact with the buyer, he tells me he never told the shipper to offer me less. No more over seas sales
    for me......
     
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  23. Drylake
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    My point with FB was the name isn't made up..... he is a hot rodder, and part of the aussie hambers. I definitely did not mean take a cheque or trust him beyond the fact he seems to me like a genuine buyer.... ca$h or direct transfer of cash is the only legitimate option. I wouldn't take a cheque from a guy that lives down the road.....! Let alone over seas!

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  24. Flathead Dave
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    It's the typical scam. They have a shipper nearby who will pay you upon pick up. Not to say that this one is a scam but this is typical. I get these texts every time I post anything on craigs list. Most of the texts that I get are from a New York or New Jersey area code. I really like it when they are persistent and want to do the money gram thing and want a contact number other than the number that I provided on my ad. Yeah, they get the police dept's phone number to make final arrangements.
     
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  25. thommoina33
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    from australia

    May want to get your facts right before generalising. He's a local hot rodder.
    The real risk usually lies with the purchaser, I purchased from the states, wire transfer money across and relying on honesty of seller and his word. I've been burnt once so can speak from experience.


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  26. Stueeee
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    On the other side of the coin, as an occasional "overseas" buyer of parts and and sometimes cars or trucks, I have to say it can be incredibly difficult for us to actually make a purchase from US based vendors. One vendor in Houston really struggled to believe we weren't some sort of odd variety of scammer where following an email exchange, we had turned up on his doorstep with $10000 in cash as a deposit. We suggested that the vendor keep the pickup until such time as an international money transfer for the balance had been completed. And only to release the vehicle to our (well known) US based shipper when he was satisfied that our payment was both legitimate and complete. Sometimes things are just what they seem to be.....
     
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  27. They don't have cash, due to medical bills for hemorrhoids from, sitting on their *** all day, shrink bills for dark depression, and a fast food diet.
    To lazy to get a real job, it's easier to hide behind a computer, and steal of people.

    That said, Australian Hambers are Damn fine folks, and it wouldn't have takin to much effort to check the guys credibility out through the Aussy members.

    If this happens again Chainsaw, send me a convo, and I'll check it for you.
     
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  28. BJR
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    It's just a shame that it has come to the point that there are so many scams out there that real buyers have to prove they are not scammers, instead of the other way around. Any time I place a craigslist ad I get 20 scammers to 1 legitimate reply.
     
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  29. Flathead Dave
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    What facts are you talking about? Generalize about what? May want to re read what was said. What was said was, "Not to say that this one is a scam but this is typical".
     
  30. Austinrod
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    I sold a car like this too Germany ^^^^^
    The one that went too New Zealand was wired
    Just tell them too wire you the money once its in your bank account they can't take it out
     
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