Technical Need help identifying this 1932 ford model b

Hello everyone, My name is Abdul, I am new to the Forum. I am interested in buying a 1932 Ford Model B Tudor from Europe. Did allot of research between the USA models and Europe models. The owner told me that it came from the States. I uploaded a couple of photos of the car if anyone can identify if its a USA model or European, also if any information or websites I can find info on 3.3L Model B, all I can find are the V8's. (the vin on the engine is 5070106 and it is registered).


Any info on this vehicle would help, Thanks

 

I'm sure you'll get several answers here, but you can also run it by the "bone stock" Ford guys.

https://www.fordbarn.com/

Pretty sure the suicide doors are a dead give away to a EU model.
I've also never seen a stock US dash with the storage holes in it.
Maybe I'm wrong, thou.

 

Looks great with the chrome grille surround.

 

Thanks for your reply, the thing is the owner said it came from the states and he has all papers, I will take a look at the car This monday the 8th and see where it actually came from. Maybe it has been converted at some point.

 

https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/32-ford-us-vs-uk.38551/

Some more info on this thread.

 

How can it have some from the US,when it is a european car as noted by the suicide doors?

 

That body is European, it was never built in an American factory. Nice car, buy it if you like it. Bob

 

Other thread lists that England had a full Ford factory, but other EU counties had ***embly plants, where US/Canada parts were imported for ***embly.
It's got suicide doors and an EU dash, but it's left hand drive, with a US steering wheel.
Maybe a US frame/running gear, that someone "exchanged" the US body for a "less desirable" EU body.

 

Thanks for the replies everyone. Thats what i thought but I kept asking the owner about it and he insisted and was 100% sure its imported from the US. I will have to wait and take more photos and see the paperwork.

Other than the suicide doors, the European models maybe like Never2low said someone changed the body.

Thanks again

 

Keep in mind it's been 85 years since 1932. It may have been imported to the states at some point of it's life and then sold and exported back to Europe.


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So i went and saw the 32 model b today. Do***ents show it was imported from the States. The owner never new there was a european body style. Everything shows its a European model. But I wanted to know the body difference in the US model vs the Euro model, Euro model has more wood? the inside ontop of the winshield is all wooden and also the side Pillers/doors.

Any info would help

Thanks

 

Nice car, hope you are buying it.
More info here:
https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/the-european-deuce-thread.970652/
Good luck,
Gordon.

 

USA `32 Ford tudor sedans had conventionally hinged doors.... every picture i have seen of a European model had suicide doors like that one

 

It's definitely a European Deuce,suicide doors and small parking lights on top of the fenders. HRP

 

All the above plus the body molding at the rear quarter windows is different.

Mick

 

He probably thinks that because it is an American designed Ford, he ***umed it came from the US, not being aware that Fords were manufactured overseas. Ozzie 1932 Fords to the untrained would also come from the US however they were locally produced.
Same as Ozzie Chevrolets, people think they are US origins when in fact they were produced locally.
Both Ozzie Fords and Chevrolets, like your car, look the same to the uninitiated however they are unique and NOT the same. There are differences that are known to enthusiasts. Like any hobby you learn things over time. Hopefully the price is right for the car?
Where are you located, maybe you could let us know and update your avatar to show where you are. What are your plans for the car?

 

Hood is from USA, body and dashboard British or European. Some Euro ones actually had chrome grill shell stock, I believe.

 

Steering wheel is USA, or at least not British...not sure what cars on continent got!

 

English and euro serial numbers were in same series as USA, but if the number is stamped on actual engine block above the water inlet that would be a vote for Euro ***embly. Also..I don't see a plaque on Firewall. Many European Fords had a br*** plaque with serial number, horsepower, etc....NOT the patent number plaque, a different one required by local law.

 

Thanks everyone for your replies and helpful info. Now Everything is cleared up and understand the differences. The motor sounds good, but the body is filled with bondo. Everything under is worn out and needs replacing, (steering suspension etc) I have no clue what they are worth.

My only concern is the serial number, I read that it should start and end with a *. I know the v8's are different. *18. His paperwork 5070106 no *
What are these worth in the US? I know the US models are worth more.

The car is located in Belgium. Its priced at $20000 won't take anything less.

Thanks again everyone.

 

Wood was mentioned. Does the EU body have a wood construction like and American 3 window? Or earlier 4 door Model A cars? Curious about this fact.

 

I read about the wood construction on another forum can't find it at the moment but they never mentioned the differences between the Euro and US models.

 

Where is the serial you are looking at...the frame, the clutch housing above starter, or on the engine over water inlet??
I think all would have the frame stamp, normal USA would have stamp over starter and don't know if Euro ones would, generally only non-USA would have stamp over water pipe.
A full original # would be *B(or AB on early car)-5number* AND real Ford #'s would have oddities: 1 would be I and 6 and 9 would have straight backs, no curve there. If numbers aren't like that be very wary!
I think someone bought a ch***is from USA and added a junk euro body. I want that luggage rack! That's a great non usa piece!

 

Here it is. https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67230&showall=1

Says the doors and subrails are lined with wood.

 

Hi Bruce, thanks for your helpful input. Thats what I was scared of, it might be junk like you said. He said he frame off restored it back in 1990. While the body was off, he said there was no numbers on the frame.

The serial number is over the water inlet.

 

The frame numbers would still be visible if they existed. Other numbers as noted would vary by nationality. This is clearly a mixture of some kind, and I think a bad Euro body adds very little value to the ch***is. A worn-out '32 ch***is probably just needs a bunch of bushings and things like that, generally not a disaster. I'd view this as a possible good ch***is and a body I'd rather remove and sell...just my view. I still want the dash and luggage rack, but wouldn't give quite $20,000 for them! Anyhow, anything '32 is worth more than I think, and will be worth even more in a couple of years!
A Belgian car could probably come from anywhere, since they did not have protected local industry. They could have imported US or Canada Fords just as easily as German or British because of that.