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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by HerecometheJudge1954, Apr 25, 2017.

  1. 57 HEAP
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    You might be able to re-drill the 4.75 BC hubs to 4.5. Since I haven't seen one, I don't know for sure. But the new hole locations could be split between the existing ones.
     
  2. LostBoy
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    I've seen worse, and usually on mud trucks. If they aren't losing wheels I doubt you will. You have 3 of the 5 that look good. Obviously not ideal, and I'm sure you can get nice aluminum ones now, but I wouldn't hesitate to drive it as long as everything is tight.


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  3. Thanks for the responses. I'll stay with the plan to switch it over via the car hubs; keep it in my neighborhood until I get it done. It's time I went to a Chevy Bolt pattern anyway, don't know why he saw a benefit to using the ford wheels, other than that's perhaps what he had lying around the back yard.
     
  4. F-ONE
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    Now you can use that hub. Press out the six cut off studs and replace them with proper wheel studs, then use 6 lug wheels.
    I would only consider that though if I had 2 good 6 lug wheels ready to go, especially since you have some new hubs on the way.

    P.S. On a second a second look it appears a plate was used and is bolted to the hub using the original studs. Remove the nuts, remove the plate, replace the studs and the hub should be fine for 6 lug wheels.
     
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  5. jimmy six
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    I dunno but NASCAR teams would run with 3 if they the driver would get out of the pits quicker....me no.
     
  6. Makes me shake my head at what is done and that we get away with it. Lots of ways to solve this (above), but maybe the existing setup has run its course.
     
  7. Yeah, like the "studs just screwed in" thing. If that is bad, is it bad for my Buick BOLTS to just screw in?

    Ben
     
  8. gimpyshotrods
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    This is not about fasteners that screw in. This is about the fact that two of those holes have an insufficient quan***y of complete threads, due to the counter-boring, to act as a structurally sound fastener arrangement.
     
  9. gene-koning
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    Mopar used wheel bolts for many years. 5 bolts make a big difference, as long as there is enough thread engagement on each bolt for it to be tightened properly, I don't see all the danger you guys are so scared of. If the wheel bolt can be torqued to spec, that is all that is required. It may not look to be the ideal solution, but its not the worst I've seen either. I would probably feel a little better if 2 holes that are messed up were not side by side, but again, if the bolts can be torqued to specs, I'm OK with it. If all 5 bolts are tightened to specs, how is 1 bolt going to wobble around? If it can, there are much deeper issues then the wheel bolt hole going on.

    What I think is funny, I wonder how many of these guys ran around with a wheel lug broken off or missing when they were teenagers, and didn't have a problem with that. Gene
     
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  10. gimpyshotrods
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    Absolutely not correct. Just because a bolt can be torqued to proper specification does not mean anything. That is static torque loading.

    The amount of force applied to a given square area of thread grows geometrically under normal operation.
     
  11. HOTRODPRIMER
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    Your dad was probably trying to make do with what he had,I'm sure many of us have employed some sketchy ideas many years ago that we know now were unsafe. HRP
     
  12. 54vicky
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    add early chrysler to list using studs for years.what pain in the ***
     
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  13. seb fontana
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  14. els
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    I would leave it like it is if I wanted my ex-wife to drive it.
     
  15. mike bowling
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    My thoughts exactly!! BUT for the safety of you and yours ( and others on the road), do it right and be safe. No disrespect to your Dad ; I'm sure he had his reasons. Good Luck with it!
     
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  16. 59f100fan
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    Dude fix it....it isn't about you it's about the others on the road


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  17. Not only do the tapped holes look sketchy, the cracked drum is another good reason to fix the problem.
     
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  18. Beanscoot
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    Looks traditional.
     
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  19. Thanks all, sorry for the late response. Fixed with '54 Chevy car hubs and drums. Now is officially 5x4,75 all the way around.
     
  20. 39cdan
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  21. clem
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    Read post 29

    He has already acknowledged what you said.
     
  22. nunattax
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    I would not roll on those hubs asking for trouble.do your bestor don't do it at all.
     
  23. As posted above, I switched over to 5 bolt hubs and drums, so yes, the problem is fixed.
     
  24. nunattax
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  25. Schwanke Engines
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    I have an axle with a Disc setup on it and a new Steering rod on it I will sell you for $300.00. I wouldn't Run the Drums when the cost of spacers puts you half way to the Disc setup.
     
  26. swap to the granada disc set up
    I picked up the bearings and caliper briskets for 100 bucks
    speedway has a complete kit for $270
     
  27. Dan Timberlake
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    maybe some of these would help
     

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