i have a van i need prepped for paint. it has some graphics painted on the sides that i need sanded down...i dont need a perfect job but need the graphics not visable on the respray. i basically want to prep/tape it best i can before i take it for a maaco quick job. A guy just got his 66 truck painted by the local maaco the same color i want to do my van and his came out AWESOME. but i feer if i dont prep it right, that it will come out ****ty so im looking to have someone help me or do the prep work. just dont know how much im in for.... i just dont have the tools or experience. ive attached a picture of the van. the graphics are painted on top so would need to be blocked no major repairs the interior is all cleaned out too, and id like that sprayed, doesnt need any prep just a quick bomb.(obviously masking good) id like to do it marroon. NOT looking for a super crazy good job, maybe a rust spot or 2 repaired. im not venturing under the bondo on the front at the moment. not looking for "you shouldnt go to maaco" or "do it yourself" or "spend the money and get it done show finish" etc. just looking for how much it would cost to have someone block out all the old graphics so they dont show really. trying to get someone who will do it on the side, maybe i can help and learn, but i just dont have the time or patience to do it all myself.
did you post this already but it was red? its the same van with the same angle. im calling BS and your just showing your photoshop skills pretty good job anyways
Bout 30 bucks in sandpaper and masking tape. Try to get the whole case of spray cans at the hardware store so all the paint is from the same batch. Some of the spray cans will goober up on you so you'll need more of them than you'd think As for getting it pro painted. Figure the cost of the vehicle and double it. That seems to be the going rate these days around here.
I don't really understand the question. So Maaco is painting it. But you want the inside of the van painted too. Is Maaco doing the inside? What I gather is that you want someone to block out the outside of the truck so there's no paint lines, then have the same person paint the inside of the truck and maybe the jambs, then you're bringing it to Maaco to have the outside painted? Is that right? I'd say $2k to do the bodywork nice and spray out the inside. Once it's done, have the same guy paint the outside. If you're gonna spend the money having someone do all the prepwork, just pay them the money you would have paid Maaco and have them paint it. Maaco uses some ****ty paint that'll shine for a few months but is going to dull out and possibly peel off after a while. They're a cheap car dealer's best friend but for you you'd be better off to buy a couple gallons of enamel and have the whole **** done at once. Spending good $ on prepwork just to have Maaco shoot it isn't going to save you any money.
To answer your question, about $200 to hire a laborer to sand it for you. Maaco uses cheaper paint for their bare minimum, ask about a higher quality paint, which will cost about a hundred dollars more a gallon........ Prep it right and you'll prolly be happy with a Maaco job. It don't take much skill to sand, just hard work. It sounds like you already know that any problems with the prep will show on the final job. You should be able to find a laboror, maybe even a Maaco prep guy that will moonlight and sand it for you. I can get that kind of work all the time, for about a hundred dollars a day. A good prep guy can do that van in a day if you do all the masking, and if all you want is a once-over on the most of it, and sand off the graphics. It's better to remove bumpers, grilles, light bezels etc, rather than trying to mask around them. After the initial sanding, evaluate how his work looks, then ask him if he will spray on a good primer coat. That done, wet-sand the entire thing with 400 grit. At that point it will be ready for the Maaco job.
Do you have a date with Maaco? I'm really busy, may be going to Cali next week, going to Rochester this weekend, working late this week. But, I should have some time. I have a big compressor, DA, boards, paper, even bondo and a gun. From here, it looks like it just needs a scuff and prime. The 'crusty' parts will need little work. Are the graphics thick or flakey? Give me a call. you can pay me back with some stripes. 848-248-2295 I only have self-etching primer here. You'll need to pick up some basic primer and reducer. There's a supply shop in S Plainfield.
graphics are thick, heavy 1-shot. id rather not burden anyone i know with sanding this thing or they are going to hate me for life!
Rob- I havent painted lately but had for several years so I know a little... Unless I am mistaken you will have to strip the areas where the graphics are now OR they will show up on your new finish for sure..... Hell I remember even a simple tape strip when removed form the old finish will imprint the old finish and will jump right up and "show" in the new job...sorry to be the bearer of bad news....... even heavy prime and blocking is not a cure.....
That's what I was worried about. What kind of clown painted that thing? If you want to meet up and use my DA, for several agonizing hours, you're welcome to. maybe call Mel and ask him if he knows any scuff monkeys.
a guy just emailed me and said he can do it for 475 thats just sanding bsaically .....thats a little high to me
for the cost of paying somebody, you can buy the compressor, da and 300, 600 and 1000 grit sandpaper, then do it in the street. when you are done, you get to keep the tools. i've never used a chemical stripper, but it could cut time down. I wouldn't do the prep work any cheaper than the other guy, but I'm not a pro, so it would take me longer. Its hard to figure price, because bad things always pop out when stripping an old car and it always ends up being more work than planned. That's why I quit doing bodywork
unfortunately i have 2 choices do it myself, and dont paint the rest of my house/deck/porch.... or have someone do it and do all the above..haha. i wanted to get it done before summer, and with work, buying a new house i just dont have the time. all my time is going into work, house, and my triumph. like i said..wish i could do it myself...
I know we're a couple hours drive apart and I'm kinda booked for awhile but we could work out a swap. The list of things I need pin striped is endless. Dave
Another problem I forsee is that one-shot is enamel and if you go with ahigher quality paint it could potentially be Urethane and if any of that enamel isnt thurought covered the Urethane will blister in minutes of shooting. prep is 90% and spraying is 10%, Paint quality, Color choice, amount will determine what it costs, and I can tell you from experience you couldn't pay me enough to sand that van! Besides its got Barnett blood all over it hahahahaha
The van is going to be like the "Erased DeKooning". Note: if you've been to art school, you know what I'm talking about.
rob use easy off oven cleaner to remove the one shot graphics. (test it on a small part of the paint first to make sure it does not react with it) then just give it a blocking to get rid of the impressions left by the graphics. if you try sanding it off you are likely to make it more wavy.
Scary statment to someone contracting to do the job. Lots of people say "i dont need a perfect job" and the laborer is thinking a twenty foot quality job but the owner ends up wanting a twenty inch job, meaning how close you can get before the flaws start showing. So, by not perfect do you mean looks good from across the street or from arms distance, squatted down looking for the dings and ripples in the metal? I think the best answer to your question is how much do competent sanders make an hour in your part of the World, since you're best deal for you and him is labor by the hour. That way you can tell him when it's "good enough", or not.
Well...why don't you wait till everything is settled down? Leave it as it is...after all you've been driving it around the way it is now... Roadrat
im not once of "Those" guys haha. like i said. I've seen the work that comes out of the one maaco and its fine. in fact a guy i pinstriped for had his 66 ford truck painted the exact same color i think im leaning towards and it came out 50x better than i had hoped mine would come out so i think ill be ok there. slag...easyoff isnt getting these graphics off.....dan tried before he sold it to me and no-go. thats why there are black panels on the sides. I asked the guy who wants 475 if that includes masking well see what he says. the van isnt perfect to begin with so i dont expect much, i just dont want to see flame outlines in the paint is my main concern. -Rob
Dont forget the saying that Maaco has...."If you dont want your windows painted..roll them down when you bring it in"
Rob's right...Easy Off is NOT even going to maake a dent in those flames. They were sprayed by a MASTER! HAHAHAHA! Seriously...they aren't goin anywhere without the help of some 80 grit and a sander. A for Maaco...I've seen them do some decent paint jobs for the price. Rob, take LeSabre's advice and be sure to check paint compatability...or make sure some sort of primer is used that will be a good buffer between two different kinds of paint. Do they make this in auto paints? i know they do for house paints. You getting rid of the green flake dash/door panels? Just curious. Hurry up and paint it so you can get some of your spam lines on it! HAHAHA!
i think it looks good as it is but its your decision, whatever you do dont use chemical stripper cause it will reveal any mudwork that might be in it and you will have more work than you wanted. you will want to get all of the graphics of and not just knock down the edges or you might have a problem with crackin. i wouldnt charge more than $250 to sand and scuff it, just to give you an idea of labor cost
my problem is i dont network enough with local car places/people/shops so i dont know anything local kind of ****s.
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