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Discussion in 'Off Topic Hot Rods & Customs' started by Rui, Apr 17, 2017.

  1. bobss396
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    Restoration Specialties has an online catalog, a bit of a chore to navigate, but they have pictures and part numbers of any trim clip that exists, well almost any. They do cover a lot of ground. Give me a part number and I'll check my paper catalog at home. I think the catalog is only like $5 and worth it. I got a freebie since I ordered a lot of stuff from them.
     
  2. Rui
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    Thank you Bob, I appreciate your help. Call me dumb, but I went through the whole illustrations part catalog and I cannot find the sections dealing with the inner door panels and fastening clips. Let me see if I can find it some other way. Thanks again.
     
  3. Rui
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    At least they won't rust :p
     
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  6. Rui
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    First one is in (****py pic). I have a lot of pics I have to chose from in order to make a complete sequence, but I'll do my best in case someone can make use of this procedure, and Ill post it soon.
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  8. Rui
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    Thanks Brodie. I wasnt having a difficulty finding them, my thing is making sure that what is on offer (on ebay and so forth) seems to be all the same regardless of vehicle make and up into the 70's. I'll order from e-bay since I can have a better deal on shipment and I'll have pre paid customs.
    Now can you tell, for instance, if these (http://m.ebay.com/itm/50-Pcs-Door-P...%3A53ee85a915c0ab66ae546bc2fffd65ad%7Ciid%3A2), will fit as good as the ones you posted?
     
  9. 55Brodie
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    I cannot say if the Ebay ones are correct. There is a critical dimension of the distance from the panel board edge to the hole center to consider.
     
  10. Rui
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    Right on thats my worrie.
     
  11. Rui
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    I could reuse some of mine, but still I need some 10-15 new. And also all of the bottom clips (36) holding the lower panel portion..
     
  12. chopd top
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    from Florida

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  13. Rui
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    Thanks chopd.
    Just random pics of what Im up to. I'll have to put it all toghether for you to see...in a while.
    Keep it up.
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  15. Rui
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    Thanks man. I didnt think so much work was involved, but all in all, its a rewarding and the****utical task!
     
  16. Texas57
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    Nice job on the welding, Rui!
    The way those door panel clips fit in the hole gives them lots of adjustment for location, btw. If they are not too brittle and break, either of those should be ok if approximately the correct size. I had originally bought some (black) at a swap meet that broke very easily. I tossed them and bought some locally at a paint supply shop (green) that were good. Sorry, don't have a number or manufacturer that I could locate at this time.
    Color given for Manufacturer reference only..........doesn't mean squat.
     
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  17. Rui
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    Hey it might not mean squat, but you coming in to throw your words and help does!
    I've got too much on my hands now. Finishing the metal work, door panels, upholstering...
    We'll keep in toutch and decide what to do.
     
  18. Allout
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    It does take time but your floor is looking good. Nice work.
     
  19. Rui
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  20. Rui
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    Guys how exactly are the bottom rectangular clips fastening the panels to the doors called? What is the proper term for them?
    Tryed multiple keywords but cant find em on evil bay.
     
  21. 54vicky
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    Rui hopefully someone with one of the Reverands CD can look it up.I will try to find in my paper books.not sure of what the CD covers but it should be in the 49-59 parts and illustration books portion of CD
     
  22. bobss396
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    Nice job on the floors. Wish I had something rusty to fix, I would fly you in for a few days... and all the beer you care to drink.
     
  23. Rui
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    I have the illustration book and the manual from danman, but oddly i cant find the parts...
     
  24. Rui
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    That would be cool bob, really cool. Maybe one day.
    Anyway the process is quite simple and ill post it soon.
     
  25. 54vicky
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    I had a ton of clip sellers on my other laptop until it took a dump.spent the last couple of hours looking for you in paper books.I found the part # and the price from back then {1957} ford dealer cost for 100=1.35 list 4cents wholesale 3cents.:(.the part#358392-S8.I tried to search with that # but no luck.I bought some probably 40 years ago at hershey or carlisle before the interweb.I will try took more
     
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  26. chopd top
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    Great job Rui!!
     
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  27. Rui
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    Thanks for looking that up for me Barry. I'll use that number also to see what I can come up with.
    Thanks chopd.
     
  28. Rui
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    So here whe go.
    Remember this idea came from jhnarial admin at the Allmetalshaping.
    This is what I started with:
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    Each panel is different but the procedure is the same.
    Define what has to go
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    Make a paper patter with its outline and details, especially take your time marking the spots where it bolts to the frame. Then cut out the areas you will be molding/drilling. Take note of its overall shape and curves/compound curves. Stencil / tranfer it to a thick piece of plywood. I used 4 cm door leftover I scored for free at a friends carpentry shop.
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    Cut it out
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    Previously you should have already determined what works out for you in terms of sheet metal. I used 1mm. Dont cut it to fit already. You need the margin to work with, cause you need to know where to lay your patter on the metal. Mark the margin determined by those red lines on the sheet metal and transfer the pattern again.
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  29. Rui
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    Then its hammerin time. I only have hand tools so thats what I used.
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    Remove the panel from its grip. Lay it flat on your bench and make sure it keeps flat, cuase molding it will make some warpage. Hand tools again.
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    Same procedure for the spot where the floor bolts to the frame.
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    So far so good.
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    Now start t******* it, test fitting. Youll be traveling a lot between your car and your bench / wood stump.
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    Repeat the process 4 times if you need to..
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  30. Rui
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    Now.. start cutting.
    At least 2 important things:
    - Mind the structural brackets/supports on your car.
    - I opted to leave about half an inch of the old floor for me to work with laying the new panels, but-welding them. You may opt other wise. I didnt 'cause im not an experienced mig welder (4th time with this job) and I thought this was easier for me.
    Also, buy a good spot weld drill bit. You'll be glad you did.
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    Weld it in. At this point youll be glad you left as less rust as possible. Mind the warping.
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    Repeat, random pics here.
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    Much better, faster and easier to weld in a patch (top) than to weld-cover rusty holes (bottom).
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    Did the same on stepboard panels
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    Not as bad as it looked before cleaning. 61 yrs old quality steel.
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    Regards
     
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