Features Falcons done right?

my two falcons.. I haven't posted on here in awhile

 

Thought some of you guys would like to know this too, been working on getting them remade

4x4.5 pattern spidercaps coming spring 2017! The people who were inquiring and people who do not know about these being made, here is an update. It's been a long process but they are almost here!

just got the sample base plate back to test the fitment on an actual rim. Next step is to have the center cones welded on the back side.

These are a bit different from the originals. There is only one plate with cone and you can use stock lug nuts with the plastic lug covers or use bullet shaped lug nuts. This design will make it easy for removal of wheel and tire, instead of the traditional 1 piece cap and base ring to screw into

It will be about a month to get the final sample in hand and test fit, and another 90 days till they actually run a production on them.

I cant wait to finally get them completed and out on some cars!

 

What roll bar is that in the white one?

 

You beat me to it Gimpy.
You've made a lot of changes to the white Hardtop, Evil......I'd like to hear more about it.

 

The roll cage is from Rhodes race cars, did single hoop with down bars then had two more come off the rear downbars to the center of where the 4 link bolts in and plated the floor, so the force goes thru the cage.

Originally a 6 cylinder car now has a 302 with efi and a 4 speed toploader, tci 4 link in the rear with a maverick 8" 4 LUG with wilwood disc brakes. Front is a cpp mini sub frame kit and control freak upper arms. Rci 17 gal fuel cell and pro werks gas cap will be grafted back into where the stock filler would have been.

all seat brackets are tied into the cage and will be running low back racetech seats, hand made exhaust tips out the side and will be using blackwidow exhaust. All the sheet metal will be the same other then using the back trunk futura Spears instead of the arrow head chrome type that was originally on the car. Also grafted a 69 camero front valance onto the car, not complete but it's getting there along with the rest of the car!

 

Lots of changes! Looks great.

I see you're going with the verboten fuel system, nice!


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[ quote ] I have just finished the swap on a 64 Comet. Can you tell me the steering parts you used. Right now I have the Versaises outer tie rod ends, and the crap that came with the car. [ / quote ]
If you have Versailles tie rods, I would assume you also have the Versailles brakes/spindles? As I understand it they're similar to Granada in the brake parts and geometry, but the holes for the tie rods are different. I can't really comment much on that, but I know Mustang Steve makes some adapter parts that will allow you to use Versailles stuff.

As for the steering, here's what I have:

65 Falcon drag link
Stock '62 steering box, 1" shaft
65 Falcon pittman arm
65 Falcon idler arm - I used a roller unit from Opentracker racing:
http://opentrackerracing.com/product/roller-idler-arm-manual-power-steering-1964-1966/
65 Falcon inner tie rod ends - shortened by 1/4" by cutting threaded end off.
65 Falcon tie rod sleeves - shortened 1/8" at each end
'77 Granada outer tie rod ends - shortened 1/4" by cutting threaded part.
'77 Granada spindles/brake assembly
'65 Falcon steering stops
Adjustable strut rods using frame mounts from Rosehill performance, swaged tubing, and stock strut rod cut off/turned down/threaded.

I don't have any issues with clutch linkage as I have a cable clutch setup. The two issues I ran into were not being to get the alignment right because the tie rods were butting together inside the sleeves (which I solved by shortening the rods and sleeves some) and the header I have on my inline 6 hits the frame mount for the idler arm slightly (which I was able to solve partially by shimming up the motor mount on the passenger side ). I have a different header I'm hoping will clear, just have to get time to put it on.

 

After a near death experience I try to discourage the use of '67 and up spindles (granada etc.) on pre'66 Ford cars.... the ackermann angle is completely different and will create bump steer. Instead use 65 Falcon/Comet or 64.5-'66 Mustang V8 spindles they have the correct ackerman angle and are the same for disc or drum so can be easily converted to the '66 4 puck disc set up

 

BINGO! I have been trying to explain this to people for more than a decade, only to be told by folks (who are not engineers) that I (engineer) have no idea what I am talking about.

Disc brake solutions for these cars can be had inexpensively, via a number of different routes and sources, for not that much money. Scarebird makes nice brackets, that allow the use of off-the-shelf, common parts.

 

The cage looks good. Any chance I could get you to post a picture of how close it would come to the door/roof post (b-pillar) on an earlier Falcon?

I am trying to build up/buy a 6-point bar, closer to the sheet metal, and farther from the occupants.

 

Depending on what seat you run you could for sure move the Main hoop to be right behind the pillar of a coupe. I'll take a pic with the windows up on my hardtop

 

Thanks!

 

not the best pics I have a 2 x 4 for structure on the Floor and the cage is tied into that. I'm on the taller side and I'm using lowback bucket seats but you could certainly hid the cage behind the pillar most likely

 

Looks good.

I want to get a good b-pillar tie-in.

 

Seems like the best place for this one.

posted by swi66 in the vintage thread

 

Hey guys. New to the site but I have been lurking for awhile now. I've been on the hunt for a wagon for sometime now and I finally picked one up last week.

60 Faclon wagon
302
C4, 3 speed
Maverick rear end

Hope to swap to 5 lug front and disk brakes sometime in the near future. I'm also not a fan of the flow masters it has and want to run glass packs. Anyone out there running glass packs with a 302? What length do you suggest?

JD

 

That's a sleeper for sure good grab.

 

LOL

 

nice.......have similar wagon

 

Can I play ???

 

Just finished putting a long tail shaft top loader 4 spd in my hardtop...

 

Are those seat covers or did you have the seats reupholstered?


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Grill looks great - nice job!

 

We made them , basically seat cover .

 

Thanks, it's a 1960 Frontenac.

 

Cut the rear flange off and made a roll pan, playing with bumpers now. Has anyone ever tried a 61-63 thunderbird hoodscoop? I just ordered one on ebay. Looked pretty close and it will replace that fake one that comes on the falcon

 

Hi all, I posted these up on my intro but probably should have put them here. Had the Falcon 46 years, the Comet about 6. They're not show cars, just every-day drivers. All 3 of our kids(young adults) and their partners have keys. I encourage them to drive either whenever possible. My wife built the 302 in the Falcon because she'd always wanted to build a motor.

 

Because Falcons won't die!

 

Since I'm here I have a question for y'all. Has anyone attempted to install '63 Falcon sheet-metal from the firewall forward on a '63 Comet?
I've been looking at ours and contemplating starting another project.

 

No, but I've seen a Comet nose on a '63 Ranchero, so I'd guess the opposite is true.