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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by singledownloop, Nov 26, 2017.

  1. singledownloop
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    Does anyone have any info on this car?I found the pic online labeled "sport custom".
     
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  2. Never2low
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    IDK. Grill reminds me of a 49-50 Olds.
    The white car in the back ground, in front of the Austin's, kinda looks like an early (49-50) Jag 120.
     
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  3. Body is 1936 or 1937 Cord.... 1936 Cord.jpg
     
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  4. The emblem on the front reminds me of the Imperial Crown emblem.... Crown.png
     
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  5. '51 Roadmaster
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    I'd say you nailed it - from the firewall back, it matches perfectly. It sure looks like a re-worked '36 Cord to me.
     
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  6. singledownloop
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    Spot on,thanks.
     
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  7. banjeaux bob
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    I'm going to go with a Graham-Paige Hupmobile roadster built on a rear wheel drive chassis.The Cords were built as front drive. download (29).jpg
     
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  8. Could be that, too. That's kinda why I said the "body" looks like Cord which is what that Hupmobile was derived from.
     
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  9. Hnstray
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    That is a really interesting vehicle. I agree it is Cord derived, perhaps via Hupmobile/Graham continuation of Cord body dies. But I have never seen this derivative before and wonder about it's history. I am a long time fan of Cords and familiar with their history, though not an expert on the subject. I do have a very rare 1st Series SAMCO replica Cord that was derived from the Glenn Pray project after that went bankrupt.

    The curious thing about the photo is the surrounding makes all appear to be British and from the '50s, although there is a Farmers Insurance advertising sign on the wall, suggesting this is in the USA.
    The front bumper on the car appears to be a'49 Plymouth 'ribbed' bar, the headlight rings '46/'48 Ford, the grille mustache could easily be Olds. So, is it a Custom or a prototype one off for a low volume producer?

    Whatever it's origins or purpose, I'd love to know more about it.

    Ray
     
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  10. Could it be based on one of the "undersized" Cords?
     
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  11. Hnstray
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    Mac, I considered that, and it's difficult to be sure about the scale of the car. The things is, the era of this display is also a bit hard to peg. The Glenn Pray Cord replicas I mentioned in above post are about 80% scale, but that really didn't work well in the quarter panel area. The first SAMCO version used the Pray design, mostly, but extended the quarters between the door and rear fender about 6 or 7 inches and that helped greatly. The car pictured has the right quarter proportions, but the first SAMCO Cords were built about 1967 and only a handful were built, perhaps as few as half a dozen, near as I can determine.

    Also, authentic Cords were built in two body styles, the 2 seater, as pictured, and a four seater called the Phaeton. Both Pray and Samco were two seater versions. There have been a number of very low volume Cord reproductions made over the years, most nearer to full scale though not always accurate dimensions or proportions. The pictured car looks very accurate to my eyes.

    This unique car could be anything from a heavily modified real Cord, a Hupmobile derivation to an unknown origin replica body. Wish I knew the answer...better yet could see this car in person.

    Ray
     
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  13. banjeaux bob
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  16. Hnstray
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    Ask me about a Rolls Kinnardly? :D

    Ray
     
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  17. theHIGHLANDER
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    Hollywood Graham, 1 of 3 2 seat convertibles built. Most were sedans, and yes they used Cord tooling/bodies.
     
  18. Hnstray
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    Highlander.......is your opinion based on the OP's post (the photo is no longer visible in his post) or the car pictured in Post #7, by Banjeaux Bob? Banjaneaux Bob also posted a link in #13 that shows the car the OP asked about.

    I recognize the Post #7 car and agree with assessment of it. Not so sure I agree on that being the origin of the vehicle posted by OP/ and post #13 link.

    Ray
     
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    [​IMG] I think the girls are standing in a Cisitalia. Bob
     
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  21. The37Kid
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    Thank you very much for the follow up! Great looking car. Bob
     
  22. SR100
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    I agree with Highlander. The wheelbase appears to be Hupp length, 115 inches. the Cord was 125 in.
    I found this on another thread:
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