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Technical Daisy mag questions

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Cptfalcon, Aug 28, 2016.

  1. Cptfalcon
    Joined: Jul 4, 2016
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    Picked these up the other day after work and finally gave them the look-over I should have given them before I bought them. They appear to be 5x4.75 but one of the wheels gas oblong holes and the other has bigger round holes. The oblong looks normal on the back, but the other looks…off. Can anyone help me out here? Hoping I didn't throw my money away. image.jpeg image.jpeg

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  2. squirrel
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    how loose is a standard shank type lug nut, in the holes in the wheels? The wheel with slots might be ok, the other one probably not. Neither one is "right".
     
  3. Cptfalcon
    Joined: Jul 4, 2016
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    No idea yet. My car is 4 lug. I got these because they seemed like a steal at the time. I was planning on taking the rear out of mine, radius the quarters and stick these wheels in to see what I had to work with in between.
     
  4. blowby
    Joined: Dec 27, 2012
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    Hose hangers.
     
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  5. michael Flohr
    Joined: Dec 15, 2017
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    the wheel u have, is a american cp 200 'mag center' wheel... the lugs should be round!
    so one wheel is malfunction...
     

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  6. Looks like someone did a DIY unilug conversion
     
  7. Hnstray
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    from Quincy, IL

    It appears to me theses wheels were originally manufactured, before final drilling, to fit a range of 4.5/4.75/5.0 lug circles. That is where the oblong recess comes in on the backside of the first wheel pictured. It appears to have an oblong lug hole that would work with 4.5 and 4.75 lug circles. The alternative pattern would have been to fit 4.75 and 5.0 lug patterns. The lug nuts would have been used with washers.

    The second wheel, which looks to me to have been the same as the first when built, has been drilled out. Probably a ham fisted attempt to either use different lug nuts or fit a different pattern diameter, which likely proved unsuccessful.

    The question is (in my mind, anyway) can the drilled wheel be safely repaired (welded and redrilled) and would the cost exceed the wheel’s value? I would expect a commercial machine shop would shy away from such a repair for liability concerns. Or, if they were willing to do the work, it would be expensive.

    Ray
     
    Last edited: Dec 15, 2017
  8. It could be repaired, but I think you answered your own question, and I certainly would not run something so critical to your vehicles performance that had been repaired. Your risking your and maybe your families lives, not to mention other motorists lives.
    Sounds like you got em cheap enough, I'd use em as garden art, or hose hangers, use your imagination.
    If you only want to run two on the rear, save your pennies and buy new.
     
  9. onetrickpony
    Joined: Sep 21, 2010
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    from Texas

    The second wheel was possibly drilled out to use 5/8" wheel studs.
     
  10. swade41
    Joined: Apr 6, 2004
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    from Buffalo,NY

    Looks like the second wheel was driven with loose lug nuts or wrong style nuts making it sloppy.
     

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