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Is this a car selling scam? Seems too good,opinions?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by xadamx, Apr 29, 2006.

  1. xadamx
    Joined: Apr 18, 2003
    Posts: 1,170

    xadamx
    Member

    OK, I found this car online and the price made it sound too good to be true. I emailed the seller asking why the car was so cheap and this is what I got back:

    Hello,
    The offer still stands. I am selling the car due to my moving overseas to Athens, Greece.
    In order not to make this a fuss from your part I am willing to pay for shipping to your location and I will also give you time to inspect the car before you decide whether to make the purchase or not. But I am sure that if you're a serious buyer you'll have no reason not to buy - this is a car in very good condition, no scratches or any kind of accidents, clear title. I will offer 15 days for inspection.

    A convenient shipping career is http://www.europe-car-delivery.com/ who will not only ship the car but will also offer the money exchange solution:
    I take the car to their office for packaging and inspection, they confirm and give you details, you wire the money to them, they bring the car to you and you inspect it yourself and decide, and finally, they pay me. If you reject the car they refund you 100% in 48hours.

    Well , that's about it concerning how this will move.

    I got married 2 weeks ago and moved with my wife who lives here. This is a beautiful car which I like so much that I took it with me thinking there will be no problems driving it here but I was amazed when I saw the registration taxes and customs charges...they're enormous because the car is from USA.
    So I have no alternative but to sell it since I can only keep it here for 2 more months.

    Let me know if you're still interested.

    Regards,
    Craig

    What do you think? I know a lot of you have dealt with scams so I was just wondering if anyone has seen something like this. The car is not a hot rod, it is a $6000 2004 VW R32...better than my GTI! If this is a scam, I hope this post gets some people out of losing a bunch of money.

    Adam
     
  2. PDX Lefty
    Joined: Aug 12, 2004
    Posts: 515

    PDX Lefty
    Member

    I wouldn't trust it.
    The old saying "If it's to good to be true, then it's probably to good to be true" comes to mind.
     
  3. Steve Ray
    Joined: Mar 2, 2001
    Posts: 697

    Steve Ray
    Member

    A VW R32 wil not depreciate from $30,000 to $6000 in two years. This is a no-brainer.
     
  4. xadamx
    Joined: Apr 18, 2003
    Posts: 1,170

    xadamx
    Member

    Too good to be true, the asshole took the ad off the internet. I knew it, just wanted to bring this to your attention if you weren't already aware of this particular scam.

    Adam
     
  5. ShakeyPuddin55
    Joined: Dec 22, 2004
    Posts: 1,906

    ShakeyPuddin55
    Member

    I just glanced a the paragraph and I'm 99% sure it's a scam. All those asshole's go to the same creative writing school.
     
  6. Unkl Ian
    Joined: Mar 29, 2001
    Posts: 13,509

    Unkl Ian

    http://j-walk.com/other/conf/

    He's going to sell a good car,
    for a fraction of it's value,
    AND give you free shipping ?

    NOT FUCKING LIKELY !


    The idea is to collect deposits from as many people as possible,
    then disappear with the money.
     
  7. JD's 32
    Joined: Dec 30, 2005
    Posts: 873

    JD's 32
    Member
    from TX

    Hey, you pay me and ill get it for you, yea thats the ticket!! HA, its a scam!!
     
  8. nsidemn
    Joined: Mar 16, 2006
    Posts: 77

    nsidemn
    Member

    Got the same email about three weeks ago just a diferent car. Run and don't look back. P.S. Don't reply to email they love getting your address.:cool:
     
  9. need to trade him even up for sumtin that explodes
     
  10. Ask him if you can pay with a cashier's check for $3,000 over the amount of the car and get the difference back in cash in US currency, wired to you through Western Union or something like that.


    (it does make me wonder what happens when say, the scammer in greece, gets scammed by the other scammer in say, Nigeria....)


    Him paying the shipping is probably the biggest tip-off - it makes it harder for the guy who falls for this to prove anything because he has nothing whatsoever to try to track when or if the car was shipped. Plus the fact that it's not cheap to ship a car overseas - if he puts it in a container by itself, I wouldn't be surprised if it cost at least half of the $6,000 price I saw someone mention. Even if the car's price was bluebook for a low-milage example less what the duty on that might be, I'd still be suspicious.
     
  11. lonely king
    Joined: Mar 8, 2006
    Posts: 419

    lonely king
    Member

    scam smell all the way....
     
  12. 53Chief
    Joined: Oct 25, 2005
    Posts: 113

    53Chief
    Member

    Just as an FYI, here is the website owner info, looks like the website was stasrted only a few months ago....hmmmm?


    ---------------------

    Domain Name: EUROPE-CAR-DELIVERY.COM

    Registrant:
    Sunami`s
    Marlynn D. Ibach (1527281750) (jackredmond20@yahoo.com)
    1905 Laurel Ave.
    NULL
    Lititz
    PA,17543
    US
    Tel. +0.7176269256
    Fax. +0.1234

    Creation Date: 20-Feb-2006
    Expiration Date: 20-Feb-2007

    Domain servers in listed order:
    ns4.bravehost.com
    ns3.bravehost.com


    Administrative Contact:
    Sunami`s
    Marlynn D. Ibach (1527281750) (jackredmond20@yahoo.com)
    1905 Laurel Ave.
    NULL
    Lititz
    PA,17543
    US
    Tel. +0.7176269256
    Fax. +0.1234

    Technical Contact:
    Sunami`s
    Marlynn D. Ibach (1527281750) (jackredmond20@yahoo.com)
    1905 Laurel Ave.
    NULL
    Lititz
    PA,17543
    US
    Tel. +0.7176269256
    Fax. +0.1234

    Billing Contact:
    Sunami`s
    Marlynn D. Ibach (1527281750) (jackredmond20@yahoo.com)
    1905 Laurel Ave.
    NULL
    Lititz
    PA,17543
    US
    Tel. +0.7176269256
    Fax. +0.1234

    Status:LOCKED
     
  13. talisman
    Joined: Feb 15, 2005
    Posts: 404

    talisman
    Member
    from Texas

    Big time scamola. Every time one of those Nigerian asshats writes that the car has "No scratches" it's a dead giveaway.
     
  14. VAPHEAD
    Joined: May 13, 2002
    Posts: 3,257

    VAPHEAD
    BANNED

    There was a Camaro on e-bay that almost got me.
    Luckily e-bay figured it out and stopped it.
    They wanted confirmed bidders only,I guess to get your email etc info.
    The price was too good to be true..
     
  15. xadamx
    Joined: Apr 18, 2003
    Posts: 1,170

    xadamx
    Member

    Psssh...they prey on people like us who are always looking for that great deal. Losers(them, not us!)

    Adam
     
  16. Tha Driver
    Joined: May 11, 2005
    Posts: 903

    Tha Driver
    BANNED
    from S.E. USA

    You're slightly off on this one. You need money for GAS if you have a car. It's "Dope will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no dope." (Freewheelin' Franklin from the Fabulous Furry Freak Bros. comix).
    ~ Paul
    aka "Tha Driver"

    I checked today and... this is the oldest I've ever been.
     
  17. PWH42
    Joined: Jan 26, 2006
    Posts: 9

    PWH42
    Member

    Is anyone over the age of post puberty gullible enough to bite on one of these???????????????????????
     
  18. beauishere
    Joined: Mar 17, 2004
    Posts: 607

    beauishere
    Member

    Run for the hills. Absolute scam.
     
  19. Irish Dan
    Joined: Jan 19, 2006
    Posts: 1,231

    Irish Dan
    Member

    May Day! May Day! May Day!
     
  20. looks like shit,smells like shit,tastes like shit,must be shit!
     
  21. xadamx
    Joined: Apr 18, 2003
    Posts: 1,170

    xadamx
    Member

  22. theHIGHLANDER
    Joined: Jun 3, 2005
    Posts: 10,591

    theHIGHLANDER
    Member

    Maybe I'm a fuckin idiot...that car is now in my driveway as we speak!! I hate these fuckin foreign cars so I wanna sell it ASAP. I'll take $9750.00 for it and ship it to you for free except the gas cost. I think I'm in the mood for a trip to CA. If that sounds like a good deal for you then just send me a 25% deposit and I'll head your way with it. It'll be fully insured and inspected. Right now it has no scratches on it. The only hold may be a slightly extended waiting period as my hunchbacked uncle is straightening out and I can't leave until he does. I hope that's not a problem for you. Thanx again for your interest...













    AND THE INTEREST I MAKE ON YOUR $$$!!!
     
  23. If you're selling a big ticket item (like a car) over the internet, ALWAYS insist on an escrow transaction through a reputable 3rd party escrow company. Period. I've used escrow.com a couple of times for international car transactions, with no problems.

    Cheap insurance against fraud, and peace of mind for both seller and buyer.
     
  24. Rich Rogers
    Joined: Apr 8, 2006
    Posts: 2,018

    Rich Rogers
    Member

    shit, don't even answer an E-mail on that one!!! Too much like the e-bay scams I've seen a couple buddies loose their shirts on!! STAY AWAY!!!
     



  25. I just do cars now and have some money left for gas ...heck spent $280.00 on gas this week.
    ITS GOOD TO SIT AT THIS MACHINE FOR A WHILE...
     
  26. I think it sounds like a good deal. I also scored on 2 acres in norcal for 500.00 in an add I found on a telephone pole. Anybody want to be my neighbor?
     
  27. Tha Driver
    Joined: May 11, 2005
    Posts: 903

    Tha Driver
    BANNED
    from S.E. USA

    Yeah me too. I'm thinking here lately that I got mis-directed somewhere. LOL!
    Put FIFTY-TWO bucks in the ZX the other day! Glad I don't drive every day & that will last me awhile. Funny "tha Driver" dosen't drive much anymore. Hope to change that soon (& maybe even get in some track time or solo racing).
    ~ Paul
    aka "Tha Driver"

    You just shot an unarmed man!
    "Well, he should have armed himself."
     

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