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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by JOYFLEA, Jan 24, 2018.

  1. JOYFLEA
    Joined: Jan 22, 2013
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    building a 29 Tudor? I want to change my wheels over to 16x4 wires . My ? Is there a way to use on disk brakes in front ? Blue
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  2. HOTRODPRIMER
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    I don't know if you can or not but I really like the bent spokes! HRP
     
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  3. Mr48chev
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    You have to run the adapter ring so you don't tweak the wheel, that is a given. After that it is will it all clear the caliper. This google search shows photos of the adapter ring and shows a spacer about 3/4 (maybe) of an inch thick.
    Out side of the disk and caliper showing the wheels may end up sitting further outboard than one would want. I saw that on a rod with Buick drums and 16 inch wires. The whole wheel was outboard of the drum because it had to have a spacer to get it to clear.

    Oops here's the google search link https://www.google.com/search?q=Spa...AhUJ2WMKHZF9C-IQ9QEINTAE#imgrc=6syr6oyrDjHCvM:
     
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  4. Manager
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    Speedway and probably some others sell an adaptor that spaces them and changes bolt pattern all in one.Its the aluminium one about 4th along the top row in the link above. The reason for the spacer is the wheels were made so the outside lip sat against the drums and drums wern't flat like late model drums and discs. The metal disc looking ones in the pics are for the early ford hydraulic drums.
     
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  5. ratreo
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    I've got a question:
    What bolt circle do you have on your rotors?
    If you have (5 on 5 1/2") BC than you can use the thin Speedway wire wheel spacers. These support the inner hub region of the early 1935 Bubb wire rims. These spacers are thin enough that you will not have any problem with full engagement of your lug nuts.

    If you have (5 on 4 1/2") or (5 on 4 3/4") BC rotors then you will need adapters that convert the small BC"s to the larger 5 on 5 1/2" BC. I would suggest that you do your homework on who in making the adapters. There is a difference in the material used to make the outer hub - ring. Also make sure that the stud fasteners are quality "grade 8" American studs not **** that came from china. Your life and the lives of those around you on the road is utterly dependent on the quality of the parts you install. This also applies to the quality of the early wire wheel rims. I'd suggest that you use the best rims that you can find. Consider that you are using 80 + year old rims...

    Another option would be to replace your rotors that have the 5 on 5 1/2" BC. Obviously it would be helpful if you knew the manufacturer of your disc brake kit. If you don't have that info you can take a chance by ordering a single rotor from someone like Speedway or Magnum and see if the parts will work together. Remember to get a bearing kit when you order the rotor. If the parts aren't compatible send them back.

    Here is a Speedway part number that I used to do just what I suggested:
    https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Ford-F-150-11-75-Inch-Brake-Rotor,4312.html

    When I build my projects I make up a parts list that includes all of the major part numbers and Mfg. names. I break up the different ***emblies ie: frame, front suspension, brakes, wheels and tires. I keep updating as I go along then send the pages of info along with the vehicle when I sell it to help out the new owner. I've built enough cars that I find a certain similarity in the parts needed. My copies of these parts lists help me order what I need prior to creating the different sub-***emblies on my current project.

    just saying...
     
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  6. ratreo
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    I anticipate that I will not have any credibility due to my sign on name. So many people on here get their ******* in a wad over a stupid moniker...

    I guess I could change the name or not. The arguments are pretty silly.

    oh well
     
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  7. JOYFLEA
    Joined: Jan 22, 2013
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    Ratreo , thank you for the info . I will check and see if I can come up with all the info I can .
     

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