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Bomber seats I made

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by topcat662, Apr 30, 2006.

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  1. flames

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  2. maltese cross

    8 vote(s)
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  3. plain

    117 vote(s)
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  1. topcat662
    Joined: Feb 14, 2006
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    Just thought I'd show some stuff I've been making. I'm looking for some ideas on new designs for these. Let me know what you guys think!
    Thanks, Eddie
     

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  2. 2-TONED
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    they look GOOOOD! ------
    ill throw you a new idea, make some with vertical beads that curve at the top like those old metal 1 piece 1940 non folding lawn type chairs that kind of have a shell design on the back rest. :p
    remember those? i just got a pair from an old farmer since he wouldnt sell me any of the tin he had that i really wanted so he sold me the old tin chairs. they are comphy!
     
  3. Ryan
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    I think the iron cross and the flames are pretty silly. OK, really silly... Stick with simple and try to add more dimension to the seats...
     
  4. fur biscuit
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    silly ryan, flames are for...:eek: :D :rolleyes:

    the seats look great. what are the dimensions, will they fit in a the front half of a T touring?
     
  5. bluebrian
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    Even though flames and iron crosses are played out, they still appear to be well made. How did you emboss the flames and the silly cross? Thats what i want to know.
     
  6. topcat662
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    The dimensions are 20" wide 18 deep and 22 tall. As for the T I'm not sure how wide the inside of your car is, I do know they fit in an A fine. Ryan explain a little more what you mean by more dimension, this is the kind of stuff I'm trying to figure out. Thanks all,
    Eddie
     
  7. topcat662
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    Thanks Mitch, I make the flames and crosses on my english wheel,
    Eddie
     
  8. Ryan
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    From the pictures, they appear to flat backed. Have you considered barrelling the seat backs?

    That said, on certain application I would think the flat backs would be appreciated.

    I think the plain seat is pretty decent looking...
     
  9. topcat662
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    2 toned, I've been thinking about that too, I've always liked those metal chairs!
    Eddie
     
  10. topcat662
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    Thanks Ryan, The backs are barreled, I'm much better at working metal than I am at taking pictures! I've taken a bunch and all the pictures look kinda flat
    Eddie
     
  11. 2-TONED
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    yep sometimes egay has some metal 'vintage' lawn chairs with killer art deco designs you can maybe grab an idea off there too.

    your seats look good if your selling them they should sell good! nice job on them.
     
  12. tinmann
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    Topcat... I must be lacking imagination because I can't for the life of me figure out how you English Wheel flames and iron crosses... and I've got a fair bit of experience with the E-Wheel that I built 6 years ago. I just assumed you had made a two piece die and pressed them in.

    Inquiring minds want to know........
     
  13. Nice work.

    I'm sure a tech article would be appreciated by many.


    I don't know where to find it - and I did look - but a few weeks back I read a short article on WW2 fighter seat ergonomics.
    There's a lot more to it than most realize.

    Some of the P-51 missions over Germany were 9-10 hours long and the pilots had to be lifted out of the cockpits in some cases.
    Not due to injury, fatigue was the culprit.

    Granted, we can stop our cars and take a break, but a fighter pilot is pretty much in one place for the duration.

    I've sat in the pilots seat - sans cushions - of an AT6 and it was surprisingly comfortable.

    Getting your hands on a fighter or trainer seat from WW2 could help in the ergonomics dept. with home-made seats.
    Which is not to say that your seats would be uncomfortable, but copying the ergonomics of a well proven design couldn't hurt.
     
  14. billy boy
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    tinmam - try a male - female pattern. one on opposite sides of the metal. if the pieces are in line, you can get a really nice design.
     
  15. Rusty
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    Very talented work. Keep up the great work
     
  16. Nice work, I too have made some and can tell you put a LOT of time into those!

    I voted for plain.
     
  17. Squablow
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    I think the flames and the cross make them look less authentic. I like the one with just ribs and holes. If I was going to use bomber seats, I would want them to look like real WWII surplus ones and not be obvious as new repop ones. The workmanship looks excellent though.
     
  18. Django
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    Bomber seats should look like bomber seats. Flames and iron crosses are GAY.

    The plain ones are nice. Good job.
     
  19. Its been mentioned a few times, but plain seats, just as they were are better looking.
     
  20. tinmann
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    I'm still trying to get my head around this...what would the patterns be made of? And how could you reference them to make sure they are accurately aligned?

    ....still curious.
     
  21. topcat662
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    Hey tinmann,
    I make the patters out of whatever metal I'm embossing, as for making sure they are aligned...I hate to say this but it comes with practice. I sometimes drill holes through whatever I'm embossing to help line them up and then weld them closed later. A lot depends on what you're doing it on.
    Hope this helps,
    Eddie
     
  22. chrisntx
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    When Ryan says more dimension, I think he means side panels. It looks like you have backs and bottoms but not much on the sides.
     
  23. Nice work. Got any progress pix?
     
  24. nice job.. although the cross and flames are a bit played i can really appreciate the craftsmanship! you definitely know your way around a fab shop..

    could you post a pic on how you emboss using the e-wheel? i'm intrigued by the idea and can't imagine how you'd do it..
     
  25. It took me a while to figure out what they were talking about too, but I think:eek: I understand?...

    1) So you cut out the pattern of what you want embossed on your part, for discussion purposes, lets say a cross.

    2) Put the part shaped like a cross on top of workpiece.

    3) Put the part you cut the cross out of under your wprkpiece.

    4) Align to the best of your abilities.

    5) Roll, roll, roll, till the two pieces (cross and cross cut out piece) are on the same plane.

    6) Remove parts and should be left with an embossed cross.



    Is this right, or am I WAAAYYY off???:confused: :eek: :D

    Like I said, I've never seen this done, so I find this interesting. Learn something every day!
     
  26. Jose in Long Beach
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  27. topcat662
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    Jake, your right on exept that the pieces have to be perfect or it won't work right. I'll try and post a "how to" on this some time soon. Thanks for your interest, Eddie
     
  28. HolyHandGrenade
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    I love the seats. I like the plain ones best. I do dig the holes though.
     
  29. hemifarris
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    Very nice seats.Excellent work. Keep them plain....Maybe add some hammer-rivets like the originals had....
     
  30. 55buicksled
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    how much for the plain robbed ones?
     

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