Projects 1933 ford 5w suspension help

So i took apart my front suspension amd **** was twisted. I know i cam research all this stuff and spend hours doing it but thats not why i join HAMB. I am new to these suspensions so please help.

1. I have a 31 inch center of eye to eye spring.

2. 2 1/4 Super Bell Axle with 36inch distance between spring perches.

The spring mounts were bent. Is this the wrong setup. Is the spring the right size. Thanks guys

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using The H.A.M.B. mobile app

 

Looks right & sounds right.
The perch bolt bent for some reason
Are the holes warbled out?
Did the wishbone fit tight on the axle?

 

Didnt come with wishbones and the holes are straight. The shackles are twisted too.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using The H.A.M.B. mobile app

 

spring is the correct size , why the stuff is bent is hard to figure out

 

I'm thinking
A). a previous owner cobbled up whatever was lying around (including bent parts) to ***emble a suspension to make the car a crude roller, possibly for the sole reason of selling it a s a roller. The shackles and spring perches look "newer" than the axle and spring.
B). the effect of rolling it around, winching or flat towing it all toed out without wishbones could have easily bent the **** out of the shackles and spring perches.

As long as the axle isn't bent or wallowed out, new perches and shackles and wishbones should get you shaped up.

Here's a pic of it under the car (bent) from one of your other posts;

 

Well it could have been thrown together to make it a roller for sure. So now my question is if the spring is good size and the axle is straight and not wolloed put what size spring shackles do i buy or does it matter and are the spring perches all the same. Sorry for all the questions. Planning on ordering everything tonight.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using The H.A.M.B. mobile app

 

Several factors make it appear that the spring is a Posies item, one of those being the part number sticker. From that you can establish whether it's correct for the axle (measured - and looks like a Superbell, so you can presumably work that out too - they'll only make a couple of widths I'm sure). The shackles look to be about normal length too.

All looks like it should work together but what's happened is a mystery!

Should be ***embled with the perches properly installed - maybe some ape, a ****ing big strong one, attempted ***embly inserting the spring perches with spring attached, requiring pry bars etc? The 'bolt' part of the perch is designed to take extension loads.

Never seem aftermarket stuff looking so crusty!

Chris

 

I’ll make a suggestion...when I purchased my 33, it also had one perch that was bent and the opposite side shackle holes were ovaled. I think the previous owner hit something to bend the perch...anyway, after attempting to replace with like kind stuff I noticed that due to the angles between axle and spring that the shackles were binding up, trying to correct the difference in the angles. I solved this by adding an adjustable spring perch on one side and an adjustable dead perch on the other side. Made a huge difference in ride and driving. Later when I read and read and read here on the H.A.M.B., I went back and started looking more at just the caster on the axle, once reset at 6 degrees and with the new generation shocks tuned for straight axles, I feel I have a car that handles excellent. Yes, I also have a 4 bar. My suggestion is adjustable perches with a dead perch..good shocks once you’ve got the right spring.


Sent from my iPad using The H.A.M.B. mobile app

 

Yep that's probably what's going on there.
Especially since it doesn't look like anything is together.

 

As long as those perch bolts are what kind of bones do you have?

 

He got it without any bones.
The axle was hung off the spring and the unbolts and just shackles held it all together while it was rolled around .

 

Oops read first then post. But I'm still trying to figure why the perch bolts are so long.

 

^^^^^^^
I'd say the extra length is for mounting lower shock mounts off of them.

With no bones I'd agree with above, probably bent rolling it around, beating the tires off of blocks of wood etc laying on the floor and if it ever had a motor setting in it with no bones it wouldn't be hard for the extra weight to bend them.

 

It had a full powertrain in it witg no bones!!!

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using The H.A.M.B. mobile app

 

Now we have the facts.
Supporting that weight with out important parts present is what got everything bent to ****.
Forensics complete.

If I were you, I'd get a complete new front end kit and be done with it. Sell the stuff you have in pieces form.

Since I'm me, And I have done the research - I'd inspect what is there, establish that it is usable and works together, then acquire the correct and missing components to complete the front suspension. Doing this first without research can get you a big box of expensive parts you can not use and get you so pissed off you buy a new front end.