Folks Of Interest Moderation Clarification... or a lack thereof...

I wish you good luck, and clarity.....

 

Thanks for all you do and the moderators as well,you answered my concerns via conversation. HRP

 

I have been on the forum since 2005 and I had no idea IFS were a problem.

 

Everybody doesn't like everything,
and nobody doesn't like nothing...

 

Actually, Ryan, I think those who "push the envelope" know they are doing so. I wouldn't lose any sleep over deleting threads that you or the mods deem "edgy". Cut 'em, and move on.

 

You have a penchant for drinking tequila....

 

I don't think it's IFS...it's frame swaps and clips and aftermarket BS. Now my '50 Ford has factory IFS and it works great. You get these guys who know everything and throw that stuff out and graft in an S10 front clip or a poorly designed 'kit'...that's what doesn't fit in here.

 

Amen on the baloney postings that only make the message board like the National Enquirer or yahoo news. I enjoy the tech where I can learn something positive not how many drive polka dot inspired hot rods

 

Maybe he invested his pension in tequila?

 

Is Schlitz and a 37 traditional?

 

I may have to add this to my signature!

 

One thing I have noticed that may be part of what others are seeing with what they call 'baloney or filler posts"
it used to seem like the content moved very quick in the past, and that may be because there was a lot of OT stuff, so now if the focus is tighter, you may not see the page or posts move as fast, and there are a few who seem like they need to fill that with anything just to keep something going....at least my .02 cents
I also prefer bourbon over tequila so that means I'm out of step myself

not all of my car is period perfect but I'm cool with not posting about it...

 

The HAMB, The BEST entertaining/technical/picture thread for a old car enthusiast IMO. You and moderator's have an impossible job, NO ONE can make Everybody Happy, Yesterday/Today/Tomorrow. Jeff Dunham sketch w/Walter, Jumped on her menstrual cycle and ******************************, reminds me of your problems here with some HAMB follower's, always *****ing about something. Have a Great Day ! and know you are appreciated by many.

 

Glad to see you do realize the lame posts railing the merits of Mustang II and relative 'suspension softeners' in otherwise real hot rods.
I know it's 'builders choice', but when it's made...don't post it on the HAMB. Please.

"Bartender? Scotch. Black & White, if you've got it..."

 

Schlitz will give ya the schlitz...

 

I work at a school with a dress code. There are times during the year when the staff in general is too busy to address it, and gradually students take more and more liberties. We finally have to jerk the chain and address it when somebody goes to far, and then we are the jerks for enforcing a rule that has been there all along. And, there are always the complaints that we are inconsistent in enforcement.

Long story short, I feel ya. I feel like this comes up every so often so it's part of the normal cycle to be addressed periodically.

 

I think there are two separate issues here. One is the closing of long standing threads that were originally allowed but are now deemed inappropriate. In my opinion that is a ****ty way to treat members who have put in a lot of time and effort putting together build threads and following build threads. There are lots of areas in life where rules are grandfathered in and I see no reason why that can't be the case here. If you guys have allowed a thread to get to 20,30,40 or more pages it's a pretty lousy thing to do to shut it down at this point because the moderators didn't do anything about it when it was first posted for whatever reason.

The second issue is new threads. I personally have no issue with a hard fast rule with Mustang II and bags on new threads but it would come with the caveat that I see the result being that the custom side of this site is going to be pretty slim pickings if strict full on traditional build rules are applied. Having said that I also find it a little hypocritical to allow things like modern transmissions to get a p*** on hot rod builds if the rules are supposedly hard and fast on things but it is Ryan's site to do as he pleases.

 

I’m a rye guy myself , good old Canadian bar whiskey !!

Tequila makes me do things I tend to regret......

A traditional rod or custom as you so put it is a fuzzy line, the guys in the beginning were all about innovation.

And yes m2 frame swaps etc. Are innovative but from a modern time and don’t fit with the 64 cut off.

If it was up to me, and it’s not if the whole of the build is period correct and there are a few modern or “ not HAMB” fitting things done. If the whole of the build or post is, it’s unfortunate to loose the valid or cool information in an entire build thread for possibly less then 5-10% of the entire content.

It’s a fuzzy line, I think with no clean cut edge.

I know I’m fairly new here’s with my posts, but thank you RYAN and all the other mods for doing your best to keep this train going in the great direction that it is!

Cheers

 

This is a tough line.

As you can see by my avatar, I like a full fendered 50's era car. This is especially true if they are customs... sectioned, chopped, traditional (or even creative) customization touches. This board has some young(er) guys, from all over the globe, that have build threads with some stellar customization going on. They have shared the build effort in detail, and in many cases, they are just average guys doing this stuff in their driveways or garages.

They also tend to use MII, later powertrains, airbags, etc. I ***ume in many cases this is driven by age, culture, wealth (or lack thereof) or just in general, their interests. It is a conundrum, because the customization is so pure in some cases, but the "guts" underneath does not follow the rules. The guys that really get it, seem to make a point to not focus on the parts of their builds that are not HAMB friendly. The remainder, just build in a furious storm of creation, and post the whole process in its raw unadulterated form. Often, the creativity and quality of the not-HAMB parts can be quite good. Sometimes... not so much. In every case, there is opportunity to see something that sparks a moment of "AHA!" that keeps me coming to this place. I love the build threads the mostest!

It was suggested in the other forum that you as moderators give the build thread owners opportunity to self moderate out the parts of their threads that are not HAMB friendly, in an effort to protect the build thread components that are beneficial to the community. This might be worth considering. Obviously, an open wheel car with exposed MII components would be much harder to do that for than a custom with the hood closed. It would boil down to thread context and quality. If a thread owner responded with "pound sand", well then it's your forum. Just my food for thought.

 

Hey Ryan ....Just a Thanks for all that you & the Mods do...It's got to be a bunch to keep up with .......

 

Well stated school teacher Dan!

 

On another forum specializing in 61-66 Ford trucks it has been complety taken over by Crown Vic modifications. It's nearly all that's on there now.
All I can say is the whole feel and climate of that site has changed since the CV mod became a quick fix.
I have zero interest in CV.....bags.....Clips......and frame swaps.

I honestly feel the CV bags and uber low trucks like that are a fad. When it runs it's course there is going to be a lot of screwed up trucks and guys hunting for traditional parts that were s****ped or even thrown away.

The HAMB is a refuge from that.

 

Hello - suggesting a "don't ask don't tell" policy might work.

1.Any blatant violations -RR's, billet rods, post 1965 etc... should be dealt with in the usual fashion.
2.Air bags - the 1958 Buick had an air ride option (Air Poised Suspension) -can be tolerated IF it does not become a focus of the entire build , same goes for off-topic MII IFS and Off topic powerplants. Show off the traditional part and keep the hood down! if you must.
3.Overseas replacement parts of the original part type, or a 1960's typical upgrade (swap out of Ford shoebox steering box etc) should be tolerated.
4.Paints, fluids, rubber -OK to use modern types

 

Lol. I have to admit that I don't just come here for era rods, customs, and fabrication magics.

Alot of times I'm here for comedy relief, and mock drama. It's a keyboard and screen, with all my imaginary planetary friends and heroes ... on some sort of cyber slant universe of days gone by ... just a mere "finger clicky" away. I dig it.

I know the rules. Mods' have to navigate thru the mess, with and without tequila stocks to guide them.

I liked when threads were mod'ded. Smaller club then. Stuff got taken out, and the contributor was redirected to the right path ... but how do you read every thread, answer every single report ? Impossible.

There's no magic bullet. Close threads, delete posts, hire more free moderators that have nothing else to do but read a hundred silly threads in their entirety .... which by the way, whose gonna' mod' this one ?

The custom Cadillac thread is epic. If I wasn't drunk, or had a life .... I'd probably delete the offending posts, insert the moderator modification post ... and carry on, but I'm not a tireless super mod' with life, family, business, and car interests that keep a roof over my head to do so. I can't b#tch about anything those guys do. Sometimes it's easier to click one ****on, and move to the next reported post.

In a perfect world, we'd all see the forest thru the trees. Contributors wouldn't cry. Moderators would grow 15 more arms and legs, and never sleep. ******s wouldn't hit the report key 57 times a day. Get a life. Some already have one. That's what THE RULES were SUPPOSED to dictate. In this unperfect world.

(There should be more tequila.)