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Technical My PCV wows fix .

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Shrapnel, Apr 23, 2018.

  1. And now for something challenging out of the shed of Shrappy's Originals , after hours of course , can't pay the bills doing homers !

    So , I've been having a weeee issue with Oil Spray over the RH side wind screen , firewall , body etc at open road (100kph) speed on the 27 Roadster. Due to No PCV Valve system I suspect .
    This Old Weiand manifold only has one small vacuum port , which is used for the distributor, and No vacuum port for a PCV Valve system. Im guessing the old Draft Tube was what was used back then , which results in an oily undercarriage.
    From what I read up on , and what I learnt ( mostly from Tommys PCV Tech post ) , was that we definitely need a PCV system , but what I also knew , was that I didn't want to make any visible changes to the old Weiand manifold. Lots of options were on offer , but none to my liking.
    After a weee while of giving the Grey Matter some late night work outs , , , this is my solution.
    Basically a PCV Valve system , attached on the manifold plenum underside ( in the block valley ) out of sight.
    Lots of pros , mostly the unseen on this manifold one , but the one Con ? If the PCV Valve starts playing up , it's manifold off to replace.
    From here , the pics can do the talking ,

    IMG_3829.JPG Bit hard to tell in this pic , but the RH side wind screen , firewall and body is well coated in a mist of engine oil.

    IMG_3813.JPG The only vacuum port on this manifold. Used for distributor.

    IMG_3822.JPG Screw in PCV Valve.
    IMG_3811.JPG IMG_3825.JPG I made up a tube shield , to try and stop any direct splashes of oil getting into the PCV Valve.
    IMG_3823.JPG Underside of the manifold plenum. Shield faceing the back of the block
    IMG_3821.JPG PCV Valve screwed in place.
    IMG_3824.JPG When I was drilling , taping and fitting the 1/4 bsp fitting to the underside of the manifold , I found the casting to be very Gummy and I lost faith in everything staying put for any length of time , so I decided to add a support bracket.
    IMG_3812.JPG I also added a saddle over the Tee fitting. I used a Tee fitting for just in case the PCV Valve isn't big enough ( this was the biggest screw in type I could find and usually found on the side of a Nissan motor ) and I need to add another.
    IMG_3817.JPG IMG_3818.JPG IMG_3820.JPG The fixings used are 3/16 Button head set screws ( they were fun to get in through the intake runner ! ) . I also added a screen just to be sure splash Oil won't land in/on the PCV Valve.
    IMG_3814.JPG IMG_3815.JPG IMG_3816.JPG Result ? About An hour and a Halfs driving at our open road speed limit ( 100kph/60mph) and no oil mist over any part of the car .
    MINT

    Shrappy
     

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  2. Here's Tommys PCV TECH thread that helped me get a better understanding on the PCV Valve system.
    Well worth a read through.

     
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  3. Good job! I am in the process of fitting a PCV to a 138 Grey motor (in an FB Holden,) that screw-in valve gives me an idea. The locknut on that bolt through the inlet manifold is a good idea, I wish I had put one on the bolt which fell into the inlet manifold (from the LP gas set-up on the carb,) and got swallowed by a piston.
     
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  4. Because I'm paranoid about small bits finding their way to the internals of the engine , I even hit the end of each set screw with a couple of Center Punch dots , right on the edge , to stop the nut coming off should it work its way lose ?
    IMG_3818.JPG

    Shrappy
     
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  5. I would have just changed to a carb that had vacuum ports to hook up the PCV and vacuum advance
     
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  6. 57 HEAP
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    Hit the bolt at the top of the nut, then it won't back off at all.
     
  7. Yeah , I thought about that , but if I need to modify this , I can just give the end of the bolt a zing with the sander to clean off the Center dot and get the nut off with ease ,
    Cheers
     
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  8. 57 HEAP
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    I follow your thinking, but once you put the intake back on do you want it to come loose? I always think about the what if I want to take it apart side. However, I also look at how well it will hold up once finished. That strap is for support, if the nut backs off, no support and maybe a vacuum leak to boot.
     

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