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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by coolhandponcho54, May 10, 2018.

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  1. 66 389 poncho

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  2. 74 500 caddy build by early cad company FL

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  1. I have a 389 290hp 2bbl stock and a mystery 500 caddy built by the old cad company was pulled from a rollover Eldorado conv. Now this thing has shaft rockers a arp studs on everything. Heads look to be ported but are 74 smog heads. My thoughts are if they rolled an el dog it's got some power. What you think
     
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  2. The 69/70 500's had the most stock hp and torque. They were all torque monsters in all the years.
    The 472/500 engines were all designed as "smog" engines. I'm sure even with 74 heads it would be a great engine since it was "built".
     
  3. jimmy six
    Joined: Mar 21, 2006
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    Keep it all Pontiac. On another thread a guy says when he sees a Ford small block in something he walks away....I have that for SBC's, it has to be something awful special to make me look at one.... Just too many.
     
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  4. The 389 might be less of a hassle to try to figuring out how to install it the 54 engine bay. It's probably a bit narrow since in was originally designed for an inline engine. If you had a 55, it might have been a straight bolt in.
    What happened to the original flat head?
     
  5. Its full of water I still got it
     
  6. 53-54 ponchos were made for new v8 but had to wait for other GM companies
    No way I can use the straight 8 cost too much $$ to build. Customizing on a budget I know both run I got $100 in either
     
  7. I think then the 389 is the way to go.
     
  8. Bird man
    Joined: Dec 28, 2009
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    With the 389, you will want '57-58 exhaust manifolds.
     
  9. 302GMC
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    302GMC
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    And the 389 bolts to the Dual Range with the right bellhousing ...
     
  10. NashRodMan
    Joined: Jul 8, 2004
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    Can we see some pictures....not to help us decide....just cuz we like pictures! :D LOL
     
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  11. oldolds
    Joined: Oct 18, 2010
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    389 and a turbo trans would be a nice swap. The stock rear can handle the power unless you are going to beat on it all day long. A 4 barrel is an easy swap. The Caddy motor would be ok as well, but more people would appreciate if it is all Pontiac. The Pontiac crowd is very brand loyal.
     
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  12. Pics to come
    389 is still in the catalina
    500 is on my home made stand
    I know it's not a hamb car but was thinking of getting the 66 Catalina road worthy it's a 4 door hardtop
    I bet none of you guys ever bought a donor car and then thought " I can fix that"
    when I get Pics up then let me know
     
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  13. Wow I thought the 500 would get a couple of votes but no not one
     
  14. daliant
    Joined: Nov 25, 2009
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    I say five hundo
     
  15. crossthread
    Joined: Mar 9, 2006
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    The caddy engine really is the best choice because lighter ,more power and many choices of transmissions . And will get better mileage. You said you got 100 bucks in it. The exhaust manifolds for the Pontiac will cost more than that, I'm sure the only problem you will have ,is that the caddy runs at about 210 to 220 degrees and that scares a lot of guys that are running sbcs.
     
  16. I guess I can't post the pics I hate/love computers
     
  17. Cadillac 500 0516181032_HDR.jpg
     
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  18. Pontiac 389
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  19. belair
    Joined: Jul 10, 2006
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    Make it a Pontillac.
     
  20. That's my thoughts
    Pontillac sounds cool as hell I might take that name
     
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  21. wheeldog57
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    If the Catalina is a running, driving car, You can sell it and use the proceeds to slam that big Cadillac into your Pontiac

    Sent from my E6810 using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
     
  22. Poncho60
    Joined: Jan 23, 2011
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    Poncho60
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    from N Illinois

    The 66 389 Pontiac and the 500 Caddy have exactly the same transmission possibilities. 389's 1963 and earlier would be another story as far as tranny possibilities.
     

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