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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by REJ, May 10, 2006.

  1. REJ
    Joined: Mar 4, 2004
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    Does anyone know what the front sway bar on an s-10 is made of?
    Is it a material that I can weld on? I need a piece of 1" shaft and this is perfect if I can use it.
     
  2. Unkl Ian
    Joined: Mar 29, 2001
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    It's probably 4130,4140, or similar.

    Yes,it can be welded,

    BUT you risk the welds being brittle depending on how fast it cools.
     
  3. AllSteel34
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    Probably 8620 or a similar spring steel. Spring steel does not like to be welded. It loses its temper.

    Chris
     
  4. squirrel
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    what is the shaft gonna be used for?
     
  5. el gringo
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    As a metallurgist (seriously), I would strongly recommend against welding on spring steel.
     
  6. peanut
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    i have tig welded a swaybar before. and it worked.
     
  7. 38Chevy454
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    From the HAMB metallurgist. A sway bar is most likely not heat treated. Also it is probably a low-alloy steel. Therefore it can be welded and no problems.
     
  8. squirrel
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    a spring is low alloy, non-heat treated steel? that's a mind blower
     
  9. 38Chevy454
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    A sway bar is not required to be heat treated.

     
  10. OLDSKEWL61
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    weld it if it brakes redo it with something else
     
  11. ol fueler
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    Try a good industrial supply store , get a piece of 1" drill rod or cold roll . They are not that costly.
     
  12. REJ
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    Well, I tried welding it when I got home. It welded real good and when it cooled off, I started twisting it to see what would happen. It is brittle. It pulled pieces of the sway bar out with the weld, so now I have a tapered piece of 1" stock.
    I will be getting a piece of cold roll and using it.
    Thanks for all your replies, but it is not built out of normal steel, I think it was hardened on the outside by the way it pulled the pieces off.:eek:
     
  13. el gringo
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    Thats exactly what I expected to happen. I guess its time for me to post an intro so that people know to trust me when it comes to steel metallurgy.

    Edit: Intro added
     
  14. oldspeed
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    If this is any help I have built a few and used 4140, heated and bent to shape then had them harden and drawn back to Rc 42-45. They have worked very well.
     
  15. Unkl Ian
    Joined: Mar 29, 2001
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    Drill Rod is O1,an Oil Hardening Tool Steel.
    Also not good for welding at home.

    Mild steel is a much better choice.
    Cold rolled,or hot rolled.

     
  16. Unkl Ian
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    Unkl Ian

    That would be my first choice for sway bars etc.

     

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