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Hot Rods Four speed shifter

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Boneyard51, May 30, 2018.

  1. Boneyard51
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    I picked up a shifter at a junk store today and know nothing of it. Could anyone here tell me a little about it. It has Inland Tool and Machine stamped on and big” ITM” on it. It’s a chrome handle, that will pull up, for reverse I guess. Any help?
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  2. Fomoco998
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    Years back I had one on a mopar 4-speed I think it was factory .
     
  3. 56sedandelivery
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    Factory GM used a lot of similar shifters for both 3 and 4 speed transmissions. Very similar to "Hurst" shifters; the same company probably made the shifters for Hurst and various auto manufacturers. I am Butch/56sedandelivery.
     
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  4. Black Panther
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    Late Camaro Z28 and Firebird Formula or Trans Am 1980 1981.. used these ITM shifters...this looks like one of those. Mostly used on the Camaro..most of the Ponchos ran the Hurst. Not a whole lot of value I'm afraid...most people prefer the factory Hurst shifters...
     
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  5. chevy57dude
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    Pulled one off an original '72 Camaro 3 speed same brand.
     
  6. 1934coupe
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    For what it's worth I have seen dozens of factory and Hurst/Mr. Gasket shifters and one thing I have noticed is factory shifters have that telltale threaded rod into a funky lever and jam nuts. I've never seen that type of set-up on Hurst or quality shifters. I have a bunch of those rods that I've collected over the years and sell them to guys that are using original stuff on their restoration.

    Pat
     
  7. Boneyard51
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    Still not sure what it fits, for sure. Seems like it’s leaning toward a GM four speed. I’ve got a top loader Ford overdrive, thinking of using this shifter, Possible?
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  8. chubbie
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    anything is possible.. do you have any fab skills?
     
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  9. Boneyard51
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    Well , chubbie, I got skills, just like a head start. Always like to talk to experience, makes it easier, usually. This is not a high priority. Doesn’t look like, I’m going to get anymore info on the shifter, going to call it a GM shifter and leave it at that, Bones
     
  10. 56sedandelivery
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    Should be able to find a Hurst mount to bolt it to your transmission (compare Hurst shifter to yours). May need to modify the rods and levers depending on how yours attaches; studs, bolts, etc. Adjust as you would a Hurst with a 1/4" dowel, and call it done. I am Butch/56sedandelivery.
     
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  11. dirty old man
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    Inland shifters were also used OEM at Ford on toploaders.
     
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  12. chubbie
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    Well now we know that you can fab/build .Most Hurst shifters are just that some have small differences for reverse side or a little more off set. But its a hurst shifter. So go ahead and set it up with what you have and if it doesn't work for you look for a different one and it will switch out without a problem.
    you said overdrive, great choice I have the same trans (mine is all cast from a PU) locate your shifter. there should be some choice for mounting holes on the trans. the ford mounts I had didn't work with this trans so I made one I used 1/2" iron maybe 4" X3"? marked holes drilled. mark shifter holes tap threads bolt it up. Hold up! not so fast. the shifter sets where the bolt heads want to be. So I bought bolts with a tapered head. Bugle head? Now we know why we used 1/2" thick mount. I tapered a drill bit to the bugle heads and drilled them so the bolt heads were flush. NOW turn them in, shifter on..... did you mark the reverse "gate" pin location on the new mount? Yes you have to drill that out and work it a little or you cant get it in reverse. NOW put it together. Your 3rd 4th shift ear has to be up.... the 1st 2nd down. Did you put the shifter on? OK good.... start fitting your shift rods. your reverse rod might not work in its form, you will need a longer one. keep fitting till you have a plan or you will need all new rods again
     
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  13. Boneyard51
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    Thanks chubbie, that’s what I was wanting, someone that has been there, so I don’t have to reinvent the wheel, so to speak. Don’t have any immediate plans for the transmission now, got a lot of projects ahead of it, so may be a while before I do this. Thanks for the info.

    Bones
     
  14. chubbie
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    I get it I need to think it through also, then you get there and its all different again. Fun aint it...
     
  15. Boneyard51
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    Yep, built many things in my head... when it turns to metal.. it doesn’t alway fit like it did in my head! Lol Bones
     

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