Hello To all you Hot Rodders who know what your doing. I have a 58 Fairlane . I bought it with a 351 Windsor in it. It originally had a 352 Engine. The motor mounts dont look very stable to me. Meg welded what looks like the bottom and top halfs of the 58 and 75 Windsor Mounts. What is the correct Motor mount for the this application. Or where and who would make a adapter Mount for this Situation.
You have two choices; use the hard-to-find OEM mounts from a '63-64 289-powered full-size Ford, or the late-style mounts commonly used in late '60s/early '70s Mustangs/Fairlanes and build an intermediate adaptor using that style mount to fit your frame mounts. The early mounts aren't all that strong, I'd recommended the later mounts with the adaptor. I built a set of adaptors out of 4" channel iron, 4 washers, and 4 bolts to attach it to frame to fit a '56 Ford, yours would be nearly identical. Lakewood part # 24094 is the mount type you want. Some welding required (not much), it's more about cutting the channel iron to the right size/angle and drilling the holes in the right place.
Thanks Steve. Looking at the pictures I posted Is the upper bracket not already a 24094 style Mount? Want to fab me a set Like you talked about. LOL. Happy to buy them. Im no fabricator.
There is no correct mount for your application, however most of the factory small block Ford mounts can be adapted with a little work. Ford used a mount like the ones pictured below in a few different applications, some are taller than others. You may have to try a few different ones until you find one that is close, then re-drill or elongate the holes in crossmember mounting pad.
Thnks for the picture of the 24094 . i did find it at Lakewood I was looking for a drawing of the angle iron idea you fabricated previously Thanks.Dennis
ok Thank you Mark what year are those mounts you sent and Are they the same mount from different angles or two different ones. The taller better for me .
That's 2 different mounts to show the difference in height, there are probably others but they were the first 2 that I found with the single stud on the bottom. The taller one is a DEA Products brand motor mounts 602725, your local parts supplier can probably cross reference it to a brand that they carry. Here is a link to Summit where I found it on the internet; https://www.summitracing.com/parts/...MI35Kf95a72wIVF_5kCh3sOgE-EAQYBiABEgKwIfD_BwE
I took a piece of 1/4 inch flat stock, and drilled it to fit the block, and spaced the mount holes out 1 inch.
Ok, here's a rough drawing of what I did. No dimensions (I'm doing this from memory) but what I did for my '56 may not be exactly the same. Ok, figure 1. I used 4" channel iron, roughly 5" long. Adjust dimensions to fit your application. The key here is the 'angle' between your frame and the later mounts differs by 5 degrees. Cut the side rails of the channel down to get the mount as low as possible, including the 5 degree angle. The hole for the later-style through-bolt needs to be as low as possible as shown. Figure 2. This shows the mount holes to the frame. I used 7/16" bolts (as per the factory) and tack-welded the bolt heads to hold them in place. While mine ended up centered in the channel, you may need to move yours. Figure 3. The 4" channel isn't quite as wide as the 'ears' on the mount, so I welded some thick washers on each side to shim it out (about 3/16" IIRC, but it's been a long time). The long late-style through bolt retains the mount, and the engine weight sits on top of the adaptor side rails. A lot of guys use the late 5.0 Mustang mounts, but those move the engine forward, forcing you to move the radiator forward also to gain fan clearance. These will leave the motor further back, but will put the drivers-side head close to the firewall requiring late-model cable throttle linkage (at least on the '55-56 Fords). The issue is Ford changed the 'offset' of the cylinders from the FE/Y-block; instead of the drivers side head 'leading', the SBF has the p***enger side ahead of the drivers side. I ***ume they did this to free up room for AC units.
I'll also note that building these adaptors will allow you to leave the motor in it's current location by just tailoring the adaptors to fit. Other solutions, while not needed these adaptors, if they relocate the motor may require re-doing other parts of the swap.
This is just Kids play if your up to it and it uses the 302 Mustang mounts that are over the counter pieces at just about any parts house. If you notice the re constructed mount on the Frame it's because some Bone Head had torched off the factory mount to Hamburger up some **** kind of like you have because they didn't know any better. Maybe it was the same guy on both Cars. Good Lord! The Wizzard
Well over a hundred of us in the 1952-59 Ford social group have done it this way in 1954-59 Fords. Pictures and part numbers are listed. https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/media/albums/289-302-351w-swap-mounts.41498/
Another little trick about using these later Mustang mounts is that you can swap them side to side,one way moves the engine forward the other way closer to the firewall the later usually works best for transmission mount alignment.
I ordered the motor mounts 84 mustang conv they look very close. Thanks again. I cant seem to find the 52 through social club. is ther a more accurate address. Thanks
Here is a link to the 1952-59 Ford Social group here on the HAMB; https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/social-forums/1952-59-ford-social-group.282/
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