Time for a re-design, updated pics. Clean up some of the lines on this...

I don't like the way my "forever project" is coming along...hence the reason it is a forever project. It just doesn't flow and has a mul***ude of ugliness built in. I'm the only one to blame as I built everything myself in a 12x 20 shed (probably the reason it looks the way it does....standing back and looking at it meant backing up a foot and squinting one eye ).

After talking with Littleman the night he started his chop we both have similar visions but I can't seem to get my flow. In other wards the picture in my head is much cooler than the turd in front of my face. I can't physically fit into what Littleman has built so his proportions will not work for me. I need more leg room and quite a bit more gut room.

I stood back and looked at some areas that need to be cleaned up. I saw 3 or 4 right off the bat.

1. Front end too long...easy fix. Shorten front of frame 6-8".

2. Too much space between firewall and distributor. I think I'll leave this one alone. I want to put a magneto in there and I have two master-cylinders to hang in there as well as few electronics and outside gauges.

3. Sits kinda too low (I can't beleive I said that). Maybe put the spring over the axle or ditch the dropped I beam and go with a chrome straight tubular axle. Either way I'd have to deal with engine angle with a custom angled carb adapters.

4. The zoomies are plain ugly. Toss 'em and custom build some longer funny car style zoomies.

Here is two pics.... one the way it is now (too long) and the other is what I did in MS paint to try to inspire me to get back to work. Throw some stuff at me people. I need to get a fire lit under my *** like last year...

 

Here are two more side shots, one now and one with a backyard photo chop done...

 

I like it.

I agree with most of your ideas... the front end is too long. I don't think it sits too low... but something about it does not look 'right.'

I can't put my finger on it, but still I like it.

I'd lock Littleman in the garage with it for a week. I don't think he could mess it up if he tried to.

 

I can't say i'd change anything. The space in the frame does look strange but not bad. It all depends what angle you're looking at it from. It looks more like a dragster the way it is and the longer wheel base would make it more stable at high speeds. No matter what you do it will look bad*** flying down the road with smoke rolling off the tires.

 

While I'm not sure what to suggest to fix things, I know if you're not feelin it you'll probably never like it or be satisfied. Just personal opinion, but I've never liked the broke in the middle look, the downhill body & opposite downhill motor, where it looks like it was hit with a giant axe at the cowl, or like a swayback ol' truck. Makes them look like a Pug dogs face. Good luck.

 

Trade that body for an Bantam roadster or T bucket. That's what jumps out at me.

 

Is chopping the top out of the question? Might help proportions.

 

raise the back, but leave the front where it is at. It'll level the engine a little and tilt the cab forward some, which should help the overall look of it.

 

The visor hanging down makes it look like the top flares outward as it goes up -- looks like Roth's Druid Princess or the Uncertain T. I'd say take the visor off or install it in the correct position, as it will affect the overall visual balance of the cab.

I agree with shortening the wheelbase and front end.

 

i would shorten the frame and maybe Z it to get it lower, then a chop is definitely needed. good luck

 

Hows this?

 

No front brakes, no radiator....
If this is a real hotrod drag car? it doesn't make any ****ing difference what it looks like, just how fast and quick it goes.
So, What's the car's purpose in life?
If it's racing, get a rule book and look up allowed engine setback for the cl*** you want to run and adjust to the maximum setback as needed.

 

Get it outside so you can get a longer distance view of it. Stuffed into a small space is not a good way to decide. The way I see it now is confusing because we can't see the bed, which will change the whole look. Get some outside pics for us.

 

The visor (28-29 car) only had the two bottom screws in it and it was flopped forward in that pic that I used. Since then I have removed that visor and am now in search of a 30-31 style. The stock 28-29 truck visor is out of the question....it looked like a duck bill and with the rake of the cab obstructed line of sight way to much.

 

WOW! Dr J replied to something I posted. I remember when you said you will never open another thing I post .

Radiator is in the bed and this will see "occaisonal" street use. I think so far I like your rule book thoughts on establishing front end length/ engine setback. Although Chili Phil's idea of a Bantam body has really got my interest.

 

I'll try to push it outside tomorow. Here is a shot from a while back...not much has changed since...

 

Curly the outside shot is better- I really only see one thing that bothers me much and thaty would be the long wheelbase ahead of the radiator....that is where Id start......doesnt look as bad as you said to me!!

 

As promised I rolled it out between rain clouds and took some distance shots plus a couple 1/4 shots. Hack it up guys and let's see if we can get it to flow a bit better.....

 

Hey Curly, look here for ideas if you would consider changing the body,

http://www.mysterion.net/AAFA/

But be careful, it might you start you down the dark road of Nitromethane addiction.

Chili Phil

 

Thanks...that's the site that got me started in the "it don't feel right mood" I'm in. I was always a big fan of these guys when the ran at the local strip but now that I'm a little older and wiser I appreciate them even more. If my fat *** could get into a bantam it would already be on there...or better yet a Fiat. Anybody got a Bantam coupe body they'd like to trade for a 28 PU cab?

 

Must have been before I started my "list".

Seeing the outdoor profile, the length doesn't bother as much as the "air" between the tributary radiator shell and the engine.
Move the shell back to a "logical" location for a radiator, to just a couple inches in front of the engine, and leave the fuel tank where it is and it'll balance the space better without starting over.
A level top chop and channel would please my eye better too. the rake of the body parts relative to the frame and then the engine incline make it look like it's bent or broken and sagging at the firewall.

 

It doesn't look too far off to me. I'd shorten the frame, then I'd play around with the cab rake & hight with the truck outside where you can step back a bit.(after you find the visor you want to run). It has that broken in the middle look, but I think a slight adjustment of the cab will change that. Raising the cab will also gain you a little room.

 

Something like this ?
Klaz
( Engine moved closer to firewall , Slight lowering&Chop, 3" longer bed and frontwheels & grilleshell moved closer to engine )

 

Here is how I would like to see it...proportion wise....

it's an animation...so give it a sec to change...

 

I like 1-shot's version....but think the cab is channeled to much up front. Looks like it's about to fall over. bring the front of that cab back up even with the bottom of the frame and I tihnk it will look better. And on raising the front end, i'd say replace the axle. The frame, as is, looks like it's about to dig into the ground. I prefer my frames going uphill to the front of the car.

 

I've incorporated some of the suggestions and did a little tweaking. Now it is a spring over instead of behind. Took 3" off of the length, moved the grille shell back, de-raked the bed and cab a little. In some angles it looks better others worse.

I'm still up in the air and looking for comments and critiques. Looks like if I keep it this way angled carb spacers are a must and new headlight stands....the tall ones make it look like this smiley -->

 

not a critique and that's a lot of great work youi've done. BUT when I see the long wheel base pics, the first thought that popped into my head was "Munster Coach"

 

the outdoor shot nailed it. Its too long... although it would help on the dragstrip.

I like what One-shot did. Looks good shorter and with a chop. I didn't want to agree with Mr Fidgiter on the rake, but he's right. It looks better with the cab level. Shorten her up a little and kill the space between the firewall and engine and it will look much better.

Right now, it has all the elements of a kick-*** ride... it just looks too awkward and long. Like a teenager who had the growth spurt and hasn't grown into his adult body yet.

It will be cool when done, I have faith in you.

 

I guess the channel job makes it look like it's from "brokeback race track" Lift the front of the body to level it. Don't chop it unless your a midget,oh sorry, vertically challenged. On second thought, take that body off and sell it to me for a couple hundred bucks and order your new fuelie body.

 

Another thing, the radial arms look too short. You can really see it from the photo above that stretches it out.