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Projects 1927 T Touring 1st time build

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Oakhillchopshop, Jun 27, 2018.

  1. Oakhillchopshop
    Joined: Aug 27, 2017
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    Oakhillchopshop

    I recently acquired what I believe to be a '27 T touring body and a Model A frame. Wasn't exactly what I was looking for but couldn't p*** it up when I saw it. Alleged to be from Kansas and brought to New York from Indiana by the gentleman I purchased it from. Possibly getting a '35 Chevy axle from the same place soon. Unsure of rearend choice at the moment. As far as engine I have a .030 over Olds 350 short block with Mondello internals, or a complete '69 472ci Cadillac in my posession. For transmission I have a Th350 and possibly a 4L80E soon. 20180624_083839.jpeg IMG_20180625_225029_832.jpeg IMG_20180624_084240_203.jpeg 20180624_083831.jpeg 20180624_083814.jpeg

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  2. Subbed because I too am building a 27 touring

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  3. Might add there's a LOT more left of yours than there is mine....

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  4. Oakhillchopshop
    Joined: Aug 27, 2017
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    Yeah I was super stoked when I found this much metal in one piece in NY

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  5. Bill Rinaldi
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    For an original T body it looks to be in pretty good shape, take your time and sort out what you have and what you want to build. The 35 Chevy axle may be a lot harder to adapt than an early Ford. The Caddie is cool but it's a big, heavy engine. The Olds engine may not bolt up to the transmissions, with out adapters, nor will the Caddie. Best bet is to Keep It Simple, especially on a first time build. Bill
     
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  6. evintho
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    You can always whack the back half off and make a roadster! 'T's are ridiculously light. The Caddy motor would be way overkill. I'd go with the Olds and find a ******. The whole body (especially that cowl) looks to be in great shape!
     
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  7. Squablow
    Joined: Apr 26, 2005
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    Body looks pretty decent, and tourings can make cool rods when done right. Those Cad engines aren't too terrible heavy once you ditch the stock intake.

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  8. Jalopy Joker
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    - this happens to a lot of us - Congrats
     
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  9. Atwater Mike
    Joined: May 31, 2002
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    Cool...another '27 tub! (I'm working on mine now...have 'A' and '32 frame, can't make up my mind!)
    Use the Olds. Get a 350 turbo hydro for the Olds...bellhousing is only difference between Chev and Olds ******s.
    I had a 455 Olds and '37 LaSalle box in my '27 roadster, Olds engines are light in weight, great in Horsepower. Joe Mondello was a friend of mine, an Olds genius...("Dr. Olds") If you have Mondello stuff, stick with it!
    Just get to work on that sheet metal, piece at a time. Rear panel can be bought from Model T Haven.
     
  10. silent rick
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  11. Oakhillchopshop
    Joined: Aug 27, 2017
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    Oakhillchopshop

    So the only certainty I have right now is to keep it as a touring so I can cruise to the ice cream shop with the wife and kids. Right now the Olds motor is a longshot because it's just a shortblock. Where as the Caddy is complete and only needs a regasket and pretty paint. Picked up the 4L80E today and the guy threw in some long tube 454 headers that I can dice up and stick on the Caddy if that's the route I go. Picking the Caddy up this weekend from my parents house and will be shuffling my various components around together to try and get a vision. Thank you for all the input, I'm taking in every bit y'all give me. Depending on what I see when I stack parts together I may not use any of it and go in a completely different direction, like an inline 6 with individual throttle per cylinder maybe. 20180628_172913.jpeg 20180628_172918.jpeg

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  12. I'm getting mine from Howell's, as well as one of their big block firewalls. Whats nice about using Howell's is they'll louver it and press a plate box in it before they ship it. But my car is more like 1/3 traditional hot rod, 1/3 gow job, 1/3 modern street rod with it's louvered back panel, Buick fins, wide 5 hubs, automatic transmission, power brakes, and Banjo rear.

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  13. F-ONE
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    My advice and I'm nobody.
    Get Vern Tardel's A V8 hot rod book.

    Build it as a simple car with just the front portion of the touring. Two adults.... or the driver and maybe 2 kids can ride in realative safety compared to "hanging out there exposed" on the rear of the tub.

    Engines.....
    Banger
    Flathead V8
    first generation OHV V8s including small blocks
    Early flat or OHV sixes

    Transmission
    3 speed manual or auto that fits or is adapted to the engine. Many engines can be adapted to the 3 speed torque tube V8 transmission

    Suspension...
    Model A (banger) or ealy V8 to 1940
    Steering...
    Ford F1
    Rear axle...
    Early V8 Banjo or Model A for Banger
    ( the torque tube banjo simplifies rear suspension and the 39 up top loader is adaptable to most 1st generation V8s.

    There's a lot of piecing to do in going early V8.......
    A banger gow job can almost be plug and play if you find a restored Model A running and rolling ch***is..... perfect for a 27T half tub.
     
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  14. F-ONE
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    Engines that can easily be adapted to the ". 39 up top loader".....
    Ford Bangers B and A
    Ford Flathead V8
    Fotd Flat six
    Lincoln V12
    Caddilac 331
    Olds Early Rocket
    Early Hemi
    Small block Chevy
    W Chevy
    63 up Chevy six
    Chevy big block
    Small block Ford
    65 up Ford Big 6....240-:300
    Nailhead Buick
     
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  15. Oakhillchopshop
    Joined: Aug 27, 2017
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    Oakhillchopshop

    Sweating like a fat guy hoisting an engine up in 90 degree weather, but I've got the Cad engine loaded in the truck. Picking up a free '53 chevy truck axle tomorrow with all the t*******s, might go with an old Indy style quarter eliptic set up in the front, looks cool and simple I think. IMG_20180630_144033_295.jpeg 20180630_130212.jpeg 20180630_130217.jpeg

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  16. Cool lookin and simple actually. I strongly recommend buying the kit vs making your own though. I was going to use that setup. Ended up with a spring over with a reversed eye monoleaf I am going to have the springshop the next town south of me make me 2 or 3 more leaves for since I am usin the 305 V6 now.

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  17. F-ONE
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    Stop and Think!

    I think you are going about this B*** Ackwards.

    You should, in my opinion have the build in mind and then gather the junk to build it.
    It seems you are gathering up a bunch of junk and letting that dictate what the build will be.
    Cheap and free, in the end..... most of the time the true value proves to be a lot less than what you gave for it. It can cost you more in the long run.
     
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  18. F-ONE
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    F-ONE
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