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Technical Logan lathes? School me - 1st metal lathe

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Fstarocka, Jun 27, 2018.

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  1. fourspd2quad
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    IMG_0368.JPG IMG_0369.JPG My unused still sitting on its pallet vintage Atlas/Craftsman lathe. Still sporting a coat of cosmoline. I got it in a deal a few years back.
     
  2. Fstarocka
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    Can anyone identify this lathe?

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  3. Logan 200, 10" swing most likely.
     
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  4. I have an atlas “ sears” lathe
    It’s a good little lathe was cheap to buy and parts and tooling are every ware on the ‘net
    I got the lathe on trade for some other tools I had
    And bought a 4 jaw chuck a quick change a millng attachment bits cutters etc.etc a have a full “ small scale “ machine shop.
    Works great for me but it is on the small side
     
  5. saltflats
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    If you were closer I would hook you up with this beast:), but I have no idea how to move it. :confused:
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  6. Fstarocka
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    I can get it for 450 - good deal? think it includes tooling as well..
     
  7. dreracecar
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    My second lathe was a Logan (High school) and machined many a part with it. The down side of them is parts, They are not stocked and made to order/fit. You have to supply the serial numbers and then they go back into records and get prints for that machine and wait for them to be made. Sticker shock comes next. I needed a set of back gears for slow rpm (threading) back in '97 and was around six weeks and $700. So if you bought it cheap and everything works, you did good and enjoy,
     
  8. Fstarocka
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    Sorry for the posts on available lathes - this one is available with tools from an estate dealer - for 450 not much to maybe get started on? What brand is this?

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  9. Pig in a poke unless you can see it run. I've turned down 2 free ones so far. One was in real nice shape too.
    In the picture is the 1st big lathe I have ever used. A Hendey, gotta be from the 1940s.
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  10. Here is some history on the relic in my previous post. From 1938... imagine how many parts were made on one of these, no DRO, no travel-dials. The Brits made some far out equipment back in the day.
    http://www.lathes.co.uk/hendey4c/
     
  11. Beanscoot
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    Another thing to keep in mind with English lathes is that they may not be able to cut some National Pipe threads, because the thread pitches are different for some sizes in England, where they use British Standard Pipe.
     
  12. Some of the ones that made it over here were geared differently for threading US thread forms..
     
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  13. Boneyard51
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    Fstar, pass on a that lathe, it’s missing the parts that drive the lead screw. The Quick change.

    Bones
     
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  14. Fstarocka
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    Thanks!

    What about this one? Comes with tooling - cheap but maybe good for the price to get me started? No idea what make this is -

    https://offerup.com/item/detail/502851100/

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  15. Unkl Ian
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    A cheap import, price isn't too bad, if it runs well.
    Looks like a belt drive, figure out if it will cut threads.
    I paid a lot more than that for my Myford ML7.
     
  16. Looks like a decent unit for the money if it's in good shape, but shipping from California will run the cost up a bunch.....

    You want as much lathe as you can afford (too big is better than too small) but be realistic; most parts a home builder will make or modify won't be that large. Generally speaking, the bigger units will offer better precision (larger, more rigid frames), but again, how precise it needs to be will depend...
     
  17. Boneyard51
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    What IAN and Steve said. Shipping is out of the question, will drive the price sky hi. Be patient, the right one for you will come around. If you could score that for a total of $450, with so, with tooling, that would be agreat place to start and learn. You can always update to a bigger and better later and sell or keep the little lathe.

    Bones
     
  18. Fstarocka
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    Hey - the lathe is 5 miles up the road, I live in Cali now - ill go have a look 2moro. They need to move in 2 days so possibly a lowball offer might work. Ill take the in law, he was a lathesman few yrs back and seems to know some stuff. He said we gotta try make a straight cut and check it b4 buying..
     
  19. saltflats
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  20. Just up the road for $450? Why aren't you there? LOLOL... I would have jumped all over that when I was looking...
     
  21. Fstarocka
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    Guy says its Austrian made,had it for 15 yrs and cuts perfectly. Gonna go look 2moro.says he will do a test cut , very open about it..

    "Lathe has been nothing short of perfect, had it for approx 15 yrs, however much of that time sat in dormant. Lots of cutting tools, Kay-d-k holder, live center, in/out jaws, could use new delrin auto-feed gear, $11.00, otherwise, champion of benchtop lathes. You can come make parts anytime so u can b comfortable with machine".
     
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  22. You are better off with a smaller lathe. Try to see if it has a draw bar and a collet set, doing small work in a chuck all the time is a PITA. 3-jaw chucks self-center the work piece, 4-jaw chucks do not. I wound up with a monster lathe due to the fact it was free and was dropped off at my garage door.
     
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  23. Boneyard51
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    So.... what did you do?"........
     
  24. 27Tudor
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    Picked up a Craftsman lathe at a farm auction today. Kind of big for my needs but I will clean it up and probably sell it. Only $110 with motor and some tooling.Kind of rough but probably still worth it. 20180707_143021.jpeg

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  25. Fstarocka
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    The fs 450 was a piece of junk, guy was a loser...

    Still the logan but no tooling, also in the mkt tod a van norman boring bar so it's a juggle. Some cheap lathes up the rd but weathered so not a good idea. Watching a south bend on ebay for 600 5 days left on bidding..

    https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/173389321902
     
  26. Metaltwister
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    image.jpeg Oh you guys and your fancy tools! Still have my first lathe even though Ive up graded a few times since getting it. Actually my great grandfather bought it brand spanking new. Even have the gear set for threading.
     
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  27. F&J
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    Holy Chit...pedal power?...Dat came over on the Mayflower with the Pilgrims? or wut?

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  28. saltflats
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    Those broken handles don't look good.
     
  29. Metaltwister
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    Bought here in California somewhere in Antelope Valley. Remember checking in on it once and it seems to me that it is a 1879 model or somewhere close to that. Peddle backwards. Keep it around as eye candy and a conversation piece. I couldnt exist without my lathes or mills.
     

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