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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by seabeecmc, Aug 3, 2018.

  1. seabeecmc
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    You're all correct. Appreciate the input. Ron
     
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  2. alchemy
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    The actual cutting and welding of the hanger seems legit, but the crossmember clearance would be another story. Maybe this weekend I could scoot under my sedan and measure for you (unless somebody else does it first).
     
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  3. BJR
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    Wouldn't you need to lengthen the torque tube 3/4" also?
     
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  4. seabeecmc
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    O.K. Just to clarify. I have '32 five window originally equipped with a B motor. Installing an 8BA with a '39 box. I acquired a '34 rear with torque tube ***embly.
    The original question still stands. Ron
     
  5. BJR is correct. You ccan't just move the spring unless you go open drive line.
    The Wizzard
     
  6. seabeecmc
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    For further clarification. The '34 driveshaft and torque must be shortened to be used with the '32 platform. By the way it's the rear that's moving, the spring stays in place. What is the need for open drive?
    Still looking for an answer to the question posed. Ron
     
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  7. I missed the part where you listed using the 34 rear axle unit. I was typing when you posted it up.
     
  8. Pewsplace
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    You can make anything work, it's a Hot Rod. I have built (25) 32 Fords and never moved the rear end from the original position. I have used the P&J brackets on 9" Fords that supposedly moved them back but never on a stock rear axle. The 32/34 rear crossmember is turned up to clear the banjo so that probably would require some modification. Mock it up and see how it works out and let us know.
     
  9. seabeecmc
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    Certainly looks to far forward to me. Question still is "has anyone done this?" Ron de4.jpg de5.jpg
     
  10. Andy
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    The street rod builders do it all the time. It is a must have. They are using coilovers and tube crossmembers. You will have a big problem with the stock crossmember not or mention the shackles. The U bolts may be a problem also.
    I find it just as appealing as moving F100 front wheels forward to center them in
    the fenders.
    I worked on a guys street rod. Coilovers and tube crossmember. Everything was poorly done and very weak.
    I rehung everything and carefully adjusted the pinion angle and put the rear in the stock location. It went to a shop and they were supposed to fix some front end stuff. He had a rack and it would not turn. He got it back and the front end was the same but they "fixed" the rear to street rod specs.
    I fixed the rack problem with a Jeep tie rod but had to drop the radius rod for clearance.
     
  11. Pete Eastwood
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    The torque tube length dictates where the rear end sits, not the spring hanger.
    Looking at your pictures, if you are going to lower this car, the rear end will move back some, as the torque tube becomes closer to horizontal.
    I just put a '34 rear in a '32.
    I can get you the dimension for shortening the '34 torque tube, correctly fit a '32.
     
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  12. seabeecmc
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    Hi Pete, we haven't talked since our last meeting at Billy Vinther's party.
    Perhaps I'm not getting my thoughts across correctly. My question still is, the modification (shown) to the '34 spring hanger will push the axle rearward .750. The torque tube shortening will take into consideration the 3/4" rearward movement of the axle. I have a Posie's lowered '32 style spring.
    The question remains has anyone done this? The front of the cross member has a curled up area for clearance. If this bent upward area is removed will the banjo clear? Thanks Pete, Regards, Ron
     
  13. thirtytwo
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    3/4” sounds like too much to me
     
  14. Pete Eastwood
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    If the '34 torque tube is shortened the correct amount, there is no need to modify the spring hangers, & the rear axle will be right where it belongs.
     
  15. alchemy
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    Pete is saying shortened to 32 specs. But Seabee wants 32 specs plus .75" more to the rear. Sorry I couldn't slide under my sedan to check the clearance tonight. I'll try to get under it tomorrow.

    My sedan actually has a late 32 rearend, but we didn't have a torquetube and driveshaft so we shortened a 34 to 32 specs when we did mine.
     
  16. seabeecmc
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    Alchemy, appreciate you grasping my question. I thought it to be straight forward. It appears I have confused everyone except you.
    Perhaps if you re asked my question in language understood on the forum I could get the answer. Regards, Ron
     
  17. fiftyv8
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    You could be the first to do this!
    If nobody else has done it where do you stand then?
    Tweak and move the cross member backwards a tad.
     
  18. 1946caddy
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    I don't see a problem with the bamjo clearing the rear crossmember. The only problem I see is the torque tube will be 3/4" too short. It may also effect your brake lines and parking brake setup needing to be lengthened.
     
  19. BJR
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    He is using a 1934 torque tube. It is longer then a 1932 torque tube. He will shorten the 1934 torque tube BUT leave it 3/4 inch longer then a stock 1932 torque tube. He is modifying the shackle mounts on the rear end like he has shown above, to move the rear end on the spring shackle mount back 3/4", and wants to know if anyone has ever done this.
     
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  20. Pete Eastwood
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    cut your torque tube with the extra 3/4" (just the tube & not the inner shaft)
    mock up the torque tube, banjo & housings, hubs & wheels (no guts necessary).
    roll them under the car. Set it at the desired ride height, & see how it looks.
    I bet you'll find it's 1/2" to 3/4 " to long !!!!
     
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  21. alchemy
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    You could do this. Then if it's too long, could whittle it down till it looks right and fits right. And make the driveshaft to match.
     
  22. steve hackel
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    Ok, another approach to the same situation..... Go ahead and modify the spring hangers to suit your needs @ 3/4" +/- , and then, rather than cut the torque tube to modify it and lengthen it, just mockup the
    existing 32 tube with some 3/8" "allthread" rod and mount it up to the transmission with the clam shells
    for a trial run. Once everything is installed and fitted, you will have your exact distance that needs to be accounted for; make up a steel spacer and use 2 torque tube gaskets at final ***embly and the torque tube issue is solved. The drive shaft can be lengthened the same amount as the spacer you make to fit between the torque tube and center section.
     
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  24. seabeecmc
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  25. Jimmy2car
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    Use a 36 Rear Spring
    Positions the rear right where you want it.
     
  26. seabeecmc
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    '36 spring does not (NOT) fit stock '32-'34 Ford rear.
    Question remains "if stock '32 Ford rear is moved rearward 3/4" will it clear stock 1932 Ford crossmember?"
     
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  27. Andy
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    Late 32 -34 banjo is bigger than early 32 banjo.
     
  28. thirtytwo
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    No
     
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  29. Johnny Gee
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    Your very smart on every one of your return replies. Here is one. If you really want to know what's going to work stop and pick your own brain and do a mock up.
     
  30. Fortunateson
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    Just measure the distance from the banjo to the crossmember and it should tell you if there will be a clearance issue.
     

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