The 32 costs more than the model A, because there are more model A's. Oh wait, there used to be more A's, but as of late, the 32's are catching up. The 32's USED to be more rare!
For reference, I drove this home for $5k a few weeks ago. "Back yard" restored about 15 years earlier, and in really good shape. I'm stripping and selling the stuff I don't want, and in the end will have a very nice hot rod (after much hard work on my part) for around $6k total investment, including the price of the car. There are good deals on Model A's still. Not so much with 32's.
Grill from a 32 will fit a 30-31 Model A with some h***le. A 28-29 grill is shorter. Fenders and running boards are different from model A and B, even Model A front fenders from 28-29 are different from Model A 30-31. Some more differences: Model A is stock always a 4 cylinder Model B (1932) is also 4 cylinder, type 18 is like a model B but with a stock V-8 flathead. Wheelbase Model A is 103,5 " Wheelbase Model B/type 18 is 106 "
Here's a price jump on the years for ya. Beautiful 1931' five window coupe body, little rust just body. Maybe 5k. Same condition 1932' Ford five window coupe. Between 15k and 25 depending on every single little part on it. Finding a good 32' with moldings, firewall, dash and all the hard parts for 10k would be a good deal if you come across one. Chris
Vince has gotten both Model A three window prototypes onto one page for us: http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/protothreewindow.htm
I always thought that in addition to the lower production and softer lines the '32 was more valuable because it was easier to "hot rod" in the early days. With the '32 you could drop in a flathead and early transmission without too much difficulty. Thus it became the car to use to make a "hot rod". Charlie Stephens
You can also add in there that a '32 has flush fitting doors. . . compared to a Model A, where the doors overlap onto the body.
Sport Coupe was a 3 window. Ugly as **** but it only has 3 windows. There is usually a difference in price on 32 5 windows and 3 windows as well as model 40 5 windows and 3 windows. The 3 window is more desirable to rodders because it is sleeker or has a better roof line or how ever you prefer that it be said.
Not to long ago we used to just call them coupes or sedans for that matter(Model A's) no need to add in how many windows, that was reserved for the deuces and newer fair. Mostly with the A's it's the question if it's early or late as in do you have a 28 29 or 30 31. After some study you will be able to tell just at a quick glance on most of the coupes, roadsters some time need a closer or longer glance.
Nice observation, but personally (and isn't it all about personal preference?) I prefer the 5 windows, and if I could only choose between a 3 window 32 and a 30-31 Model A I would choose the Model A.
I'm a 3 window guy when it come to the late model stuff.....and preferably it's of the 1936 variation.
It all comes down to what the traffic will bear, like the difference in price between a 54 Chev vs a 55 Chev.
I heard somewhere that there are 3 times as many 32 Ford Roadsters in just the state of California than they ever actually made in 32.
that would seem logical with the gl*** body being available.. and with the price of a steel body.. the gl*** jobs do not seem so expensive to me now.. still way out of my budget..
Just goes to SHOW that You CANNOT BELIEVE everything you read or hear I have been to California many times ... mostly to car shows. Ford made 12,597 roadsters ... so that means that there are over 37,500 32 roadsters in California ??? The same uninformed " folks " say that there are more 32 Fords in California that Henry made. Cabriolet 6,091 Convertible sedan 926 Five-window Standard coupe 51,794 Fordor sedan 37,363 Panel delivery 6,122 Phaeton 2,490 Roadster 12,597 Sedan delivery 400 Station wagon 1,383 Sport coupe 2,911 Three-window Deluxe coupe 22,148 Tudor sedan 124,101 Victoria 8,580 This is over 250 thousand Now California does have a good many 32's ( just look at the LA Roadster photos here on the HAMB ) but NO way there is over 250 thousand in the entire world ... IMHO ... much less California. ___________________________ Model A's are nice. They can be and are HOT RODS But comparing Model A's to 32 Fords is like comparing a 53/54 Chevy to a 55 Chevy. Sure there are folks ( owners ) who say they prefer the 53/54 over the 55 ... and that may be the truth ... but the majority of folks prefer the 55 Chevy. Same with the Fords ... I do not know WHY ... the 32 is so pleasing to a lot of folks but it just is. ME especially.
Well son the 1932 ford is the Holy Grail of hot rodding always has been and always will be now dont forget it
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The three windows are more popular with hot-rodders because the doors are wider and it's easier for middle -aged hot rodders (the ones with the cash to buy them) to get their enlarged behinds into the cars to start with.