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Technical Mcleod hydraulic clutch bearing failure

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by vetteson, Sep 21, 2018.

  1. vetteson
    Joined: Oct 7, 2010
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    I have a Mcleod hydraulic TOB in my '54 Hudson Hornet. It is on a S10 T5 5 speed transmission. The bearing has been on the car for 5 years and has about 1500 miles (300/yr). Recently I noticed that the pedal was "hanging up" during shifting. Eventually I had to push the pedal hard to get it "free" and change gears. Recently the pedal, after pushing it, went to the floor and did not return. We have pulled the transmission and the bearing is frozen to the bearing cover collar. So far we have been unable to free it. It was not leaking, but there is some rust on the outer bearing surface. It was difficult to install originally, determining the proper clearance is not easy, but once set up was problem free until recently.
     
  2. jimmy six
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    Standard for McCleod. You did better than most. Their TOB needs to be used a lot (daily)to function properly. Ram and Howe have worked the best for us. Good Luck
     
  3. This is the downside to hydraulic TO bearings. The parts truck when I raced stock cars carried Howe and maybe Quarter Master bearings. I have an external slave on my set up. I also agree that old cars are like people, they need exercise on a regular basis.
     
  4. I never had a problem with my mcloud. Following the simple install directions on their web site made easy. You might have more than a bearing issue.
     
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  5. Bandit Billy
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    Did you limit the pedal travel? They recommend only about 6 inches of movement to activate the bearing. Too much pressure will lead to premature failure.
    When you get a chance I would like to see a picture of what you have going on.
     
  6. The pedal travel to disengage can be controlled by the diameter of the cylinder.
     
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  7. Bandit Billy
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    ^^^How do you mean? McLeod was quite specific on the cylinder size. I am getting ready to do another so the more intel the better!
     
  8. McLeod tob are incredibly easy to install/adjust... if you were having issues installing... maybe there is another problem.. had mine on since 2012.. been running this car hard and often... never had any issue


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  9. no55mad
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    Lots of horror stories here (including mine) concerning HTOB's!
     
  10. Hnstray
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    There have been, which has made me wary of using one, though I love the advantages of the way they are installed (i. e. minimum linkage complexity and ‘clutter’). So far as I know, there are OEM units that seem to be relatively problem free, so what is responsible for the aftermarket issues?

    If the product design and manufacturing quality is there, then installation would be next question. But anecdotal stories do not clarify the ‘chicken or egg’ issue. Very frustrating situation to figure out from afar.........

    Ray
     
    Last edited: Sep 22, 2018
  11. A small diameter cylinder moves less fluid per inch of stroke. It can also move it at a higher pressure resulting in less pedal feel. I tried different ones and found out the bigger the better. They make different bearing spacers. This is crotical to getting the right fit. You can't cheat and put a spacer behind the bearing. This would move everything forward including the hoses that can get cut by the pressure plate. Ask me how I know.
     
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  12. ace5043
    Joined: Sep 28, 2008
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    from Florida

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