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Wilson and Woods Flathead Heads

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Bigcheese327, Nov 19, 2004.

  1. Bigcheese327
    Joined: Sep 16, 2001
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    These things look super cool, but I've never seen them mentioned on the HAMB before (saw reference on Fordbarn). Anybody know the story behind them? Are they reproductions, a name revival or something entirely new? Anybody using them? I'm really digging the no-fin look.
     
  2. Kevin Lee
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    I've noticed them on ebay a few times. I think what they're doing is bad*** and I have huge respect for someone who would sink so much time and dough into a project like this. So that's why I hate to say what I am about to say....They look cold and soulless.

    I know that's completely stupid and obviously not the point of those heads but I can't help it. I would have gotten someone to help make them look cooler.

    The even shiitier part about me saying this is that I stress out every time someone emails Spun looking to buy a set of Aero Discs.....if I could just make a few small changes to them. Why can't they just be happy buying what I've spent so much time to produce? [​IMG]

    I hope they sell a ton.
     
  3. Church
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    I believe at one point they were selling the whole company on ebay. If only Grim would have ponied up the dough, we could have made them cool looking, and he would be king. [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  4. Digger_Dave
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    Is/are these the engine/heads that Mark Kirby was working on with the Wilson and Woods team?

    Between reproduction Ardun heads and aluminum blocks, water pumps and an ***orted number of flathead pieces; I'd think I can safely say; FLATHEADS AIN'T DEAD YET!!
     
  5. curbspeed
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    They have potential for looking cool. Smooth out the sharp edges and grind off the name and sand and polish the hell out of them. That would work for me. But who cares what I think?
     
  6. curbspeed
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    Oh, Grim! I like your wheel discs just the way they are and you will be getting my money very soon. Can you make a disc to cover the inside as well? I'm using 40 Ford backing plates and drums. Just wondering if you had tried any other dimensions with that spinning lathe.
     
  7. Flat Ernie
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    I'm with grim...from what I've seen of the chamber shape, it doesn't look like any new ground has been broken...

    ...they look industrial or marine-ish


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  8. Andy
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    I think there is some strange thinking if you put 4 tube headers on a flathead! [​IMG]
     
  9. Digger_Dave
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    [ QUOTE ]
    ...they look industrial or marine-ish
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    Then again Ernie, they might not look too bad beside a Flatattack BBC water pump adaptor.

    But that's just my "warped" idea! [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  10. Digger_Dave
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    [ QUOTE ]
    I think there is some strange thinking if you put 4 tube headers on a flathead! [​IMG]

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    Wondered about that. Anybody know the thinking behind a 4 tube header??

    Maybe there is an exhaust port divider that runs all the way out to the headers making separate ports for each of the center cylinders??
     
  11. Flat Ernie
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    [ QUOTE ]
    Then again Ernie, they might not look too bad beside a Flatattack BBC water pump adaptor.


    [/ QUOTE ]

    True enough - eventually, though, it'll quit looking like a flathead altogether! [​IMG]

    It always amazes me that folks are still designing & building new stuff for this old engine!

    [​IMG]
     
  12. TV
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    Could someone post a picture of these? I'd like to see them.--TV [​IMG]
     
  13. Bigcheese327
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    [​IMG]

    I hate to say it, the more I look at them, the more I agree with the above comments. They're not as '30s industrial as I first thought.

    Oh well, I still think stock heads look awesome.
     
  14. HOTRODPRIMER
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    Looks like the type of head that would be on a flathead in the space shuttle [​IMG]

    It's cool looking and kinda ****y at the same time! [​IMG]HRP
     
  15. Bruce Lancaster
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    Yeah, unfeeling soulless lump designed by accountants look--much like a Cadlillac flathead.
    Real flathead engines are little monuments of Gothic architecture. Those look like a piece of metal designed to surround a waterjacket to .X inches thickness...Henry and Edsel wouldn't have let the foundry dudes go home until the look was corrected. Nasty ins***utional looking lumps...I hope they aren't world beating fast...
     
  16. Flatdog
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    Dave I think those header are disco looking .Can not figure out what they are trying to do.Does not make sense to me.
     
  17. Muttley
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    Those things look like they belong on something like this:
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  18. Elmo Rodge
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    Perhaps they wanted to sell a set to Boyd to put in a 2003 Corvette. [​IMG] Wayno
     
  19. Flatdog
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    [​IMG]Muttly You are killing me.
     
  20. Salt Rat
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    I believe these heads were designed and fabricated 15 to 20 years ago for a Bonneville Salt Flats racer. At one time I saw the molds and heads for sale on ebay, but if I remember correctly it was only the first generation heads. Design changes were made, but I never saw a second generation head.
     
  21. FrozenMerc
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    That makes sense since you responded to a 14 year old thread.....:eek:
     
  22. Flatheadjohn47
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    32802A1D-8890-4DC8-B672-031704FBCB0A.jpeg B483D189-3EAF-4B78-9EC2-CB064A36C249.jpeg Chamber shape doesn’t really matter a lot. According to my friend, Joe Abbin,Road Runner Eng from Albuquerque,N.M. Who is an engineer,has a flow bench,and a dyno and is proficient in the useage has flowed many heads and has found the better flowing heads have only 3-5 h.p difference from a stock cast iron head. In other words, no head is going to turn the flathead into a powerful machine as compared to a stock cast iron Henry head. His 34 sedan gutted race/street car has 335 h.p. With a roots blower and runs Henry Ford cast iron 49-53 heads and runs mid 12’s at well over 100 mph.
     
  23. PoTaToTrUcK
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    I own set number 11 out of 25 in the first run. When I got them I asked Ken why he would do this and he told me he was a hot rod guy and also designed racing heads for jet ski's and snow mobiles, also F-head. The fins do nothing for cooling, the trick to these heads are they are deeper and what he designed was the increased water flow on the inside as well as using aluminum that in Unleaded fuel would not damage. The second generation have a three bars on the exterior. Mine run great, 85 F in Seattle rush hour and I was running 170 degrees. When I open the hood it is holy ****! What is that?
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