Let's Talk Cyclecars

Good question - I wondered that myself when it was first posted. Interesting front suspension - aircooled french? Groovy regardless.

 

They look more like barn-finds than RR to me. The one on the right looks like a Sizaire-Naiudin, possibly the middle car as well, albeit heavily modified. No guesses on the other one.

 

Hello,​

All three look to me as barn-finds, too - but probably heavily modified in their youth!

Probably that all three belonged to the same "stable" - kept together form old times, maybe changing owners from time to time - as a complete.
Question is are they in good running condition at all? The left one is quite different, looking almost normal with a rude modified body.
One at the middle and one at the right had the same suspension, but the diferent bodies - maybe modified too.
Looking through their grills - it seems that there is not an engine inside, but could be single cylinder from the era of "Voiturette" racing days - maybe Sizaire-Naudin? However, suspension looks similar but not the same as S-N had - maybe modified...
Edwardian racing cars transformed into vintage specials from whatever reason?

Ciao,
Zoran​

 

I was thinking they were newer S-Ns, but I forgot that the S-N slid on pillars like a Morgan or early Lancia, but with transverse springs. The Sizaire brothers left S-N in 1912. Their next car, the Sizaire-Berwick, was a large conventional car with a solid front axle. Their final car, the Sizaire Frères, was a light car whose transverse front spring formed the lower link in the IFS. Oddly, in 1921, all three Sizaire firms were producing cars.

 

Kume, what a great video! At 14.42 something comes off the little orange and purple checkerboard car. Can't tell if it was a taillight, or maybe a camera, it came from the left rear of the car, above the gas tank.

 

Today I visited my friend Alexander

 

These cars are Antony prototypes wich run in several races of the thirties like bol d'or or hill climbs. There are much news about nergamotte one of them here
http://tricyclecaristes.forumr.net/t1527-dans-la-famille-antony-je-voudrais-bergamotte[url/] There are several engine mount like jap or one or two rarest twin cylinder harrissard like this The name of the team was les souris bleus Antony is the restaurateur of the old Fiat F1 in the thirties wich he exhumed from a pond.

 

Thanks for posting that.
Here is a different angle of the same three Antony racers from a different Tricaristes page:


This is a clearer view of the Antony IFS:

The split front axle was something more commonly seen in postwar British trials cars.

 

https://primotipo.com/2018/10/18/cl...Xiw370s0S737g0A4OryvIpKVImWT8-Oihf6ntQR_s5teY

 

Wow, what a guy. thanks for posting that Bob.

 

The story about Harold brings back some memories as I grew up in Adelaide and know a lot of the people mentioned in the history as well as having met Clisby himself.

Roo

 

Was the Clisby-Douglas ever bodied?

 

This is a super story of a super little car which is still racing!

https://forums.autosport.com/topic/211180-salome-her-creators-story/#entry8571533

 

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Hello,
As I could see from more photos, it was always raced "naked" - bodyless!
A few are shown here:



Later Harold Clisby designed serious racing cars, but also small specials in a class of 125 ccs (built for other racers):

Just as a curiosity - home property where Harold spent childhood (garden railway!):


Ciao,
Zoran

 

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Som most part of BERGAMOTTE mistery is solved now!

We know designer/constructor (not much is written about Antony) but more could be seen about his unorthodox racing cyclecars, with a lot of technical details.

Left one has underslung chassis with leaf springs over it and one in the middle and one at the right have independent front suspension with transverse leaf spring over it!






Model with underslung chassis has rear spring over chassis, too - which was quite a rare solution!



Visible is sprocket at the rear axle, without differential - chain transmission.



It has quite serious front brakes with interesting and precise commends, but couldn't be sure for the rear brakes - I couldn't see them? There are drums, but empty. Maybe there was small drum beside sprocket, with outside belt/band as an active brake? That is for the model with underslung chassis and solid axles front and rear.


Ciao,
Zoran

 

The Primotipo link that Bob posted mentioned that Clisby planned to body it, but I couldn't find any pictures of it beyond the early ones you show. I was hoping someone, maybe from down under, might know more.
The regs for the 500cc club in Britain (at roughly the same time) include the phrase "bodywork optional but desirable".

 

That was a great read. thanks for posting.
Fred

 

1914 Buick tandem.Great history.

 

Who know more about this car?

 

Herb does.He may know where the car ended up.Both that post and the pictures were from long ago.

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/WeirdWheels/comments/390t4g/191924_slabyberinger_elektrowagen_6wheel/

 

Hello, Rolf!​

I was always amused by Slaby-Beringer cyclecar, both in electric and benzin powered version, either single-seaters or two-seaters...
(my favourites, two extremes of automobiles: small cars and giants, the best if aero-engined!)





Such six-wheeler is a small mystery for me: never could be seen clearly is it automobile with six wheels or regular SB with a passenger trailer? Looks to me as a trailer, but quite close coupled to a car...

Ciao,
Zoran​

 

Norway 1921

 

1925 C-5 Amilcar on loan to the Seal Cove Auto Museum from the Old Friends Preservation Garage.

 

A couple of pics of our old friend the Mathis VL333 (post-11842779, post-9507597):

 

Dang pretty little coupe.

 

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... modern version of Mathis - what could be alike if developed trough a decades?
Ciao,
Zoran

 

The Corbin was interesting, but rather underdeveloped. The dimples on the back of the front fender were part of a patented airflow management system. But if you braked hard while going down a steep hill, you might end up on your nose. It didn't look like the weight distribution would be that bad, but it was. They focused on the wrong development goals.
The wider Mathis body looks better too.

 

I got to see Jerry Sherman's collection once, there was a Ruby or Rugby cycle car that was very nice looking, I think that was lost in the barn fire also along with piles of Hispano parts. Very sad automobile loss. Bob

 

Bob, This was on the top of the pile on my desk, might as well share it. Bob