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Technical Water Pump Dilemma

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  1. MrPhat40
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    Dear H.A.M.B.er's

    Just received my new Stewart Stage 2 pump Model # 22301 for my mildly tuned 327 SBC (circa 1965). I bought the aluminum pump as I thought it to be the best way to go and not have to worry about a water pump for the long haul.
    In doing the dry fir I noticed this pump does not have a water byp*** (small open port on the p***enger side of the water inlet).

    Stewart says that this by p*** is not used on their high performance Stage 2 unit.

    So the question is: do I need a byp*** for usual street driving/cruising?
    What are the downsides (if any) for using this pump on the street?

    Appreciate the expertise this group always offers.

    MrPhat40
     
  2. Johnny Gee
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    Do you have a heater in the car? Does it flow all the time?
     
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  3. jaw22w
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    I have never run one on any of my many sbc's. Never a problem. Heater or no. Maybe I've been lucky for 50 years.
     
  4. Mr48chev
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    Stage 2 pump shows to have the theaded hole for the heater hose connection in this shot https://www.summitracing.com/parts/emp-22103/overview/ What it doesn't have is the normally plugged outside of some truck applications byp*** connection on top.
    Most stock 327 iron pumps I have seen come with the byp*** hole on top and with a plug in it. I don't think in the past 55 years I have ever hooked up a byp*** hose to one. Like this one if the O'Reilly's link works. https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/...6144/1964/chevrolet/impala?q=Water+Pump&pos=1
     
  5. Johnny Gee
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    Drill it or exchange it.
    [​IMG]
     
  6. MrPhat40
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    Actually I was referring to the by p*** hole as shown in the picture posted by Johnny Gee.
    Do I need this opening for a street car with a heater?



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  7. Johnny Gee
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    It helps by giving water a chance to move when thermostat is closed (cold). In 55 the first year of SBC some vehicles came with out heaters so this by p*** was done.
     
  8. Johnny Gee
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    Does your system have full flow of coolant or does it have a heater valve?
     
  9. derpr
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    Are you using a thermostat?
    I would drill a 3/16 hole in the thermostat. Creating my own byp***.


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  10. MrPhat40
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    The thermostat is a 180 degree high performance model from Speedway it features (3) 3/16th inch byp*** holes.
    So it looks like I will be okay with this unit.

    My concerns are all due to the fact I need to trim the driver side mount to get it to clear the timing cover.
    If I grind this pump in order to fit it I own it!!

    Appreciate the explanation of the byp***.
    MrPhat40



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  11. Johnny Gee
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    Reminds me of the time my Dad went to White Front to buy shoes and come home with a stereo unit instead. :)
     
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  12. Jalopy Joker
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    what long haul? aluminum corrodes too, unless running a clean sacrificial anode
     
  13. dirty old man
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    Where to get and how to install sacrificial anode? I'd like to install one in each of the cars I have with aluminum components in the cooling system.
    As for the byp***, my sbc powered '31"A" Hiboy utilizes a Zip's water pump riser which omits the oem byp*** hole and the instructions that came with it were very emphatic about the necessity of a byp*** hose if there wasn't a heater with constant flow on the car. The hose runs from an outlet on the p*** side head to the ****** cast into the water pump housing.
     
  14. MrPhat40
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    Great point
    At this point in time I am returning the Aluminum Stewart for credit
    Looking into their cast iron unit.
    Appreciate your comments
    MrPhat40



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  15. Jalopy Joker
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    simple install - one from Flex-A-Lite replaces radiator drain plug, Scott Drake & Northern Radiator offer radiator cap replacements
     

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