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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by rob-redm, Dec 22, 2018.

  1. rob-redm
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    So I just got this back from recast on Thursday..Pulled my 46-48 Ford wheel off this Saturday afternoon....so thought I was home free ..Slide the Lincoln wheel on the column.. and the steering column shaft doesn't make it all the way through to get the nut on.. I see no rubbing on the wheel anywhere..either the steering column mast may be a bit long..was also suggested to remove the woodruff key and see if maybe it may be the problem also ( taper on the wheel ) ..had some good ideas from Bruce D. Whick I'll look at..but was wondering if anyone had the issue..new exactly what was the fix... It's 36 Ford 3 window..The column I was told was 40 Ford truck...Thank you and Happy Holidays to everyone! I think the Grinch is f'ing with me...lol
     

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  2. rob-redm
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    Thank you, so if anyone has ran into the issue let me know... Going to pull the woodruff key out
    and see were that gets me... also check the steering column mast. just chime in !
     
  3. fordpatina
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    Looks like the problem is the steering column tube is not the correct one
     
  4. Dirty Dug
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    Looks like you need to grind down the cone on the truck column. Not the shaft housing but the cone part that lines up with a '40 wheel. You can see rub marks in one of your pictures showing why you're having a problem. It also looks like your column doesn't have a tapered shaft.
     
  5. fordpatina
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    You need to get a 42-48 lincoln zephyr continental sedan club coupe to fit that wheel
     
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  6. rob-redm
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    shaft looks tapered to me... really couldn't see any rub marks.. going to look at it again today... going to use some painters tape and see if the help to see were my problem is..
     

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  7. gatz
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    No rubbing at the mast end?
    Could be the woodruff key, as you say.
    But, it looks like the holes in the steering wheels are not the same size.
    Can you check dimension?
    Or use something as simple as a toothpick trimmed to size to fit the small end of one of the holes; then compare with the other wheel.
     
  8. rob-redm
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    … I think you hit the nail on the head Doug... I was just looking at the back on the wheels.. The 46-48 wheel shaft hole is 3/4" front and back... The 48 Lincoln wheel is tapered 3/4" back and around 5/8" on the front side. look like I need to machine the hole opening... shaft.jpg
     
  9. Dirty Dug
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    Why not just put an earlier tapered shaft top on your steering shaft that will fit the wheel? It looks like it's going to be short anyway looking at the picture.
     
  10. rob-redm
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    The car is going into shop in the next month or two to address a some issues I'm having... I'll see if I can find a shaft in that time...Thanks for input Doug...
     
  11. rob-redm
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    keyway removed.jpg so I removed the woodruff key.... and was able to start the nut on the shaft
     
  12. Dirty Dug
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    So now you have a spinning wheel that won't steer. Not advisable on the open road.
     
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  13. 41rodderz
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    Should of, would of, could of did a pretrial fit. Just about goes for anything.
     
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  14. I’ll go down to my shop & look at my 40 Lincoln Column Tube & take Pictures. I’m using a 37 Lincoln 3-Spoke Wheel In a 33 Ford Column With Stock Locking mask.


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  15. rob-redm
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    haha ! sitting in the garage not driving it... it was recommend to remove the woodruff key and see if it slid down farther on the shaft... which it did...I think the key way that was added to the bottom of the wheel may just be a little to tight... maybe some filing a bit will help... thanks Doug.. Happy New Year !
     
  16. rob-redm
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    and your point ? … I have seen these wheels in a lot of cars... and the only thing really you need to do is add the keyway a 180 to the bottom... some guys have had to open the back up some where the bell comes thru the back of the wheel ( not having that issue) .. thank you
     
  17. rob-redm
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    Thank you, The 36 has a 40 Ford truck column in it.. I'm going to grab the woodruff key and try the fit on the new keyway that was added to the wheel , lets see if I may have a fitment issue there.. then may run the nut down slowly and see were it gets me... someone recommend that I may want to dress up the shaft some for any burrs.. and maybe lapp the whole in the steering wheel … I appreciate the input..
     
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  18. Dirty Dug
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    How about posting a picture of your steering box. Maybe someone could identify it. The '40 truck mast isn't what was on it originally. The shaft is non-tapered while a '40 shaft is tapered.
     
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  19. rob-redm
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    will do, I guess that's what I get for thinking .. was told that what the column was... but hey we all get old and the memory slips... I'll get a picture tonight..
     
  20. rob-redm
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    steering box pictures as requested ! @Dirty Dug steering box 1.jpg steering box 2.jpg
     
  21. Dirty Dug
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    I don't know what it is, ask Marshall he'll know.
     
  22. rob-redm
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    ha ha, funny he put this car together... I'll show him the pictures maybe he will remember.. or it's something I'm sure the previous owner may have provided … who knows... lol... I do know the woodruff key I have slides right thru the keyway on the wheel I removed... It's way tight on the Lincoln wheel...
     
  23. beater40
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    So you have a 40 truck column on a 36 box and shaft is how I read it, different years were different lengths in the shaft and especially and most importantly, where the column hanger is bolted to the dash.
    First test, unbolt the column and remove it completely, then check your wheel on the shaft, I'm sure the wheels all have the same taper, I have a 40 Ford wheel on my 37 Lincoln for now, no problem.
    Mark the bottom of the wheel on the shaft, remove the steering wheel and measure to the mark.
    Replace the column and remeasure.
    To fix, if the column measure is too long, you will need to trim some off the bottom where it fits over the steering box, then remove your column drop and move it up the shaft until it fits in the correct position.
    When you start changing stuff around, you need to check it all fits and sometimes it takes a bit of trial and error. Also look at a 40 coupe sedan column as the drops are in a different position


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