Projects Oxidized paint look

That's the key from the back when right there. No one built his car to look like shit and the ones that looked like hell had plans to make them look better. A lot of the ragged looking rods we see photos of were lakes racers that were towed to the lakes by the guy's nicer rod or custom too.
For Bobsundance if the car in question just has oxidized an not crappy rusted paint why not do like we did back in the day and buff and polish and wax the old paint to bring back what shine it has even if the primer shows through in a few places. Old but cared for and somewhat shiny paint is genuine patina just like an old well loved and well cared for saddle has a patina but doesn't show abuse or neglect.
The Merc in these photos had original paint when I took the photos a few years ago. It had belonged to a customer of mine when I worked in a parts house who was afraid to drive it because the gas gauge didn't work. I saw it rolling up the road on a trailer one day and then a couple of years later saw it at the show where I took these photos. The paint on the hood is worn through because the previous owner kept it covered with a tarp in the yard while firing the car up and driving it around the block a few times a year when he mowed where it had sat.

 

If you were close by I'd stop by and piss on it every day for free.

 

Post a pic
We can help ya through it
A friend has an early 60s that needs a fender spotted in. It’s has an older paint job. There are some tricks to help paint look older.

I understand what it takes in $$$$ and effort to paint cars Not every person desires a show car.

I must be one of the few that loves both a perfect refinished car and cool rusty/ crappy old paint car.

 

Here is a spot we cleaned and buffed on my 57
The rest will be done this way and any repairs will be spotted in and blended

 

My old '35 Master is mostly original worn out paint with the repaired fenders sorta spotted in as necessary.
I like it and don't really care if someone else doesn't.
Even if it is the right color, I do not regard it as "shitty". What a ridiculous phrase to describe another HAMBer's car.
The patina vs shine debate is no longer entertaining. Let it go.

 

Nice rat rod?

 

When my grandfather returned to Western NY after WWII in 1945 and pulled the old 35 Chevy around in front of the garage and started "modifying" it to make it go faster, he didn't really worry about the body that had spent the last 10 years being driven in all 4 seasons. The paint was oxidized, there were more than a few rust spots and probably a hole or two. To me, that is a "traditional" hot rod and the heart of "hot rodding". (the two words that get tossed around here most often)
Nice painted cars are cool, and they show that someone spent loads of money to build the car... loads of money is not something the "hot rodders" my granddad hung out with usually had. That was reserved for magazine show cars, and the guys that built cars for a living... are those cars more deserving of the title "hot rod" than the guy that wasn't getting paid to build a car and was spending his few extra bucks on the car simply because he loved cars?
To be honest...I wish I could have the rusty shitty car my granddad built over any of the shiny check book built cars of that time or this time.
Guys like my grandad made people like Isky, Edelbrock, et al.
Thousands of set of heads and cams sold to shade tree guys just trying to "hop up" their cars is what helped finance the famous race cars, and helped make the technology advancements possible. Everyone drools over the belly tanker and curses the imperfect, not shiny home built hot rod. In my mind it should almost be the other way around.
IMHO, the home hobbyist with the rusty shitty cars were the foundation of this thing we like to call hot rodding
And here we are 70 years later passing judgment on a car and car owner because there isn't a bottomless check book or money tree that allows them to drop $3-7k. on paint and another 10k on interior. I would think at this stage in the game we should all really be happy that there are still people under 50 that are even interested and willing to dump any disposable income into the hobby. (particularly this segment of the hobby)
I am a car fan... I like certain eras better than others, but the constant overtone that all 40's and 50's hot rods were shiny painted gems is absurd. I would argue that there were more rusty shitty hot rods than there were nice shiny hot rods.
Chappy

 

You're serious?
No skulls, ammo cans, tractor parts or randomly welded metal shards.
Nope, doesn't qualify as a rat rod. Lol.

 

Cat looks great
Now spend 20k on paint and leave it in your living room as decoration

Lol

 

When I was a kid we used to do our own bodywork (sand paper was cheap), pull off any trim we could, mask the rest ourselves in Earl Schive's parking lot and get a $19.95 paint job that didn't look bad at 30 feet or 30 mph. I think you could the same thing at Maaco for $300 or 400.

 

My father has always told me: "Build the best that you can afford." "That's what we did." Quality is traditional. Paint is an optional luxury. Happy Holidays everyone!

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Yeah, well for fifty plus years I've beat on and painted my own and many other vehicles and it's hard to settle for less than perfect when refinishing any of them. Others won't accept dubious quality and we all judge each other.
When you're young and full of energy the time doesn't count so much but now at the age of sixty five, it all needs to count.
I still enjoy welding and fabricating but after a couple of hundred projects over the years I'd rather take a beating than block sand.
Here is my last clearcoated build.

 

1. Find someone with a '42 - '48 unrestored Chevy to trade rear fenders with.
2. Comb the big flea markets/swap meets.
3. Search the old car junk yards.

 

Last car I painted was here in my open carport, using $40 a gal enamel and $40 a gal enamel clear on top of it. I think I had less than $200 total in paint and primer. It had a few flaws, but was good enough to get two 1st place trophies and 3-4 second place ones. And that was only about 5 years ago. I plan the same style paint for the Lincoln when the time comes.

 

Welp, I guess all I own are shitty cars This isn't the first thread about patina, original paint or no paint on cars that I have read. It seems most on here don't like cars that are like that. I have a build thread on here of a 5 window being built by Steadfast Mfg. that is going on 2 years. It will have shitty paint as well so I have decided not to post anymore pics of it on here so most can be happy. It's gonna be an awesome car. Thanks Moriarity for setting me straight.

 

What if the car owner doesn’t want shiny?
Why does shiny = nice
Seen plenty of shiny cars that look like crap and plenty of drug out of a field cars that were cool.

 

Post em
Cool is cool no matter how loud old guys yell at the sky

 

...why don't you guys try to answer the question the guy posted instead of beating the "patina" thing to death;...if you don't like the thread, just move on, this patina thing will never end,...most cars posted on the HAMB have old/bad paint and most HAMBers like em....go figure.

...anyway, I'd run a da sander (or do by hand) over the rear fenders, or scuff em up with a scotchbrite pad, work on it til you get the results you need/like,..there's an art to makin different paint qualities match, give it a shot....maybe fog a lil red oxide primer on the naturallyweathered areas, then scuff that lightly with fine steel wool.
...these rear fenders were grey but I matched em to the rest of the car...good luck.
I'd like to see some pics of the car.

 

BTW,..aerocolor,...that Chevy sedan is a beautiful car in my eyes,...you guys do very nice work indeed!

 

We could argue all night and into next year (that's only a few hours away). I don't have an issue with what I call "honest" cars, basically survivors with paint that might not be perfect, but have a story for every little imperfection. What I can't stand are "contrived" cars where the owner goes to great lengths to try to emulate what a survivor car is as far as finish goes. It never seems to work and almost everyone that looks at it knows what the owner is trying to do. Trust me, I know how expensive show quality paint work is and I'm not recommending it for every car. I had an OT car painted at MAACO a few yrs. ago and even with a small amount of body work it was only $1,100. I know that's no small change to a lot us, but the original paint was shot. It was dead and faded badly. I wanted to keep the car so I sprung for the paint work. Is it show quality, not by any stretch, but it sure looks a lot better than before.

 

I think that might be the issue.
We're all old, opinionated and stubborn as hell...
But we all just love our cars.
Happy New Year everyone!

 

..............I resemble that statement!

 

My underwear has holes in 'em .... and maybe some stains.

Thanks for allowing me some new words today. Patina'd and oxidized undies in Dallas !!! Boy do I feel better.

 

So when I posted a thread a while back asking about how often you guys wax your cars, basically all I got was a bunch of guys saying they never wax their car, bragging about how bad their paint is, like it was a badge of honor or something to not give a damn about the paint. Where the hell were all you guys telling the OP to shine up his ride?

 

Didnt we have this conversation last week?
Cant waiy till this year is over..

 

I've had good luck with steelwool and diesel fuel to bring a shine back to old paint. Even worked to a degree on the red primer undercoat on my Merc where it had weathered pretty bad on the roof. Where the original fanfare maroon was still ok I just use Turtle rubbing compound to bring out a shine. The front fender tops were down to metal in places so I gave them a good steel wool shine and then sprayed with clear lacquer. I love the look. I've got five miles of gravel road before I ever hit pavement so if I had an expensive shiny paint job I'd be scared to get out of second gear for fear of stone chips. I enjoy keeping the old sedan looking much the same as it did when our dad drove us to town in it. Build your car the way you like it.

 

Paint the car yourself. I do and I am not a professional painter by any means but it still represents the best work I can attempt. I am not afraid to attempt it nor do I reject the criticism of it. I look at flop's threads and the metalwork he does and attempt to duplicate it. I say attempt but am no where close but I try. Do your own work or what you can. as I said earlier buff and wax it. That is cheap unless you don't have elbow grease.

Not mine, I got all new ones for Christmas!

 

QUOTE="warhorseracing, post: 12890897, member: 24768"]Not mine, I got all new ones for Christmas![/QUOTE]


Now you can work on patina'ing them thangs' !! Lol. Merry Christmas sir !!! haha