I’ve got a 1968 ford 302 I’m looking to rebuild and wake up a bit. This will be my first full rebuild/ internally modified engine. I’d like to keep it on pump gas, naturally aspirated and street worthy. Anyone care to give me some of your build specs and part numbers Sent from my iPhone using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
How can a 302 Ford be too new, when almost every other car here has a 350 Chevy in it , it seems, and the 350 didn’t come out till 1967? Don’t see anyone complaining about the Chevy. He said he had a “1968 Ford 302 “ not a 1968 Ford with a 302. Bones
I’m putting it in place of an old y block in my 63 f100 Sent from my iPhone using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
What's your budget? How much power do you want to make? Manual or automatic trans? Power brakes? Probably the best single improvement (other than the usual carb/intake) will be a roller hydraulic cam. Which cam grind will depend on the end use. Next best improvement will be better heads.
RE: TOO NEW!!! When I first came here I got "bitch slapped" for my choices on my car. Therefore I do not share my build or any progress as I keep working on my car. I do, however, lurk at this site and try to share information if I think I can help out someone else with some issue.
Steven, I too , got jumped on, on my first couple of posts. They were just a “little” off topic. Like most newbys I just scanned the rules. It was a rough start for me. But, I saw the numbers of members here vs other forums. I concluded that due to the number of people involved here, I would have to take the bad with the good. And hopefully there would be a wealth of information here, I was not disappointed, there are “experts” here on virtually every subject. What gets me is, there have been many posts here dealing with the decline of our hobby and what we can do to brace it up. Then when a newby comes on and makes a perceived mistake, people jump all over him, I just dont get it, how many good guys have been run off because of that? Just my thoughts. Bones
Thanks for the input. My drivetrain is definitely "off topic". I am trying to work within a very short budget and a whole car (for $100) that I could strip for parts was certainly good for me. My interior though will be what people here would call "mild custom" Also my paint will certainly not be stock on the car exterior. So I guess my car would more be considered a custom. I'll just keep lurking about and work my project in my own little world for now.
There's lots and lots of information about what you can do with your engine based on what end result you are looking for. There's also many people on the web site who probably don't want to admit it but they are VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE in the Ford 302 engines.
I’ve got no real budget in mind. Power wise 350-400 if reasonable. I be got a c4 I’m planning on using. I’ve got an edlebrock dual plane “performer” idle to 5500 rpm intake I’d like to use as well Sent from my iPhone using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
I had 289. When I rebuilt it, I put in 11-1 pistons and a mild street cam. C-4 trans. Edelbrock Torker Intake with a Holly 600 double pumper. It pumped it up and had a nice lope to it. Placed it into my 1972 Pinto. Food for thought...
I always complain about the 350 in Ford's. If you're going to drive a Ford, keep it a Ford. As they say on YAHOO!, "BONEYARD CLAPS BACK"
For the most bang for the buck go for a late roller motor that goes for 350 Chevys too. As for to new how many 305 questions have I seen?
Dave , I too dislike the 350 Chevy in the old Fords, mainly because it’s done so often. I understand why they do it, easier fit, cheaper horsepower, etc. But, that’s kinda where hot rodding shines, doing things differently. I don’t bitch anymore when I see the Chevy in a Ford, out loud anyway. But, I do compliment a guy when I see a Ford in a Ford..... And I shout out when I see a Ford in a Chevy.... I’m quiet most of the time! Lol Bones
I think in your truck I'd rather have something out of the fe family. I think that 300hp out of your 302 is doable but any more than that is questionable to me in truck isn't going to be easy to live with. Just my $.02. Pete
If it was me doing the rebuild for basically the same money you could buy a 347 stroker kit. A half decent set of heads, solid flat tappet cam, intake, headers would get you into 400 hp easily.
Buffalo racer is right. 300 is easy on a budget. 350 400 is easy too but you're looking at new aluminum or at least ported GT40 heads and a bigger budget for roller cam and better components...stroker kits are getting cheaper every day. The Weiand Stealth intake is the best all around carbed street intake for the 289/302....again, this is OT and we're just asking for a bitch slap....deserving too. But WAIT...change your post to a 289 engine and you'll be on topic LOL! A SBF is fine for a light truck as long as your not using it for heavy hauling. I'd be cooler to do a Yblock. I have both. Everything has its place Sent from my SM-G950U using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
No way can anybody with any sense complain about 302 FORD questions with all of the 350 chevy stuff on here....cheapest way to make power is compression right?...I understand this ethanol blend shit will take a bunch of compression and not predetonate....
Just me, but I would save my dollars for the 347 rotating assembly, use the Performer with a 600 cfm carb and some GT40 heads. It won't be a Top Fueler, but it should pull your F100 around nicely, with 3.50 to 3.70 gears and a shift kit in the C4. Call the cam manufacturer of your choice for a cam recommendation.
Went to a car show one guy said I'm voteing for car #3 it's got an Olds https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Oldsmobile-Valve-Covers-for-Small-Block-Chevy,5056.html
In your truck, a 302 will be a bit small. 300-325 HP is doable, over that you're getting more than a bit 'racy' and along with the C4 it won't have a lot of low-end torque. And rather than spending money on a stroker, I'd be far more inclined to just get a 351W instead. Pretty easy to hit 400 HP while keeping it 'cruise friendly'.
You have a 289 with an early 3" stroker kit. The best money you can spend on a sbf is on heads, I would NOT spend a dime on the stock heads. There is 70 to 125 hp to be had over stock heads depending on the head and cam combination. I personally like the RHS heads I've made good power with them..
I’m a diehard Chevy guy, but the 302 Ford is one of their best engines! I guess it boils down to what your budget is. If it were me, I’d build a stock bottom end, with maybe a set of 5.0 forged pistons, GT40 Heads, match your can RPM range to your cruise RPM and let the HP numbers fall where they will. I tend to favor engines built for torque over HP. Besides, when you start putting HP numbers on stuff, that’s when things get expensive. Personally, I also favor flat tappet hydraulic cams. Keeps thing more “in budget”. Sent from my iPhone using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
A lotta truth in some of the posts ^^^^^especially (A lotta BS too!) 302 CAN make the number you want but.....it will be getting pretty "high-strung" and then you will need a typical truck gear(3.73:1-4.10:1) to use it in such a heavy vehicle. AFR heads and a 331 or 347 stroker kit with a decent camshaft will get you to 350 HP pretty easy but....for ease of break-in and long term durability...you need a roller cam. You can "convert" your 50 year old flat tappet to roller but....they may entail a reduced base circle cam and the roller "kits" are pricey. If you have unlimited funds its....no big deal but....you would be dollars ahead to find a later model 351 with a factory roller cam and start there. It will bolt up to the C-4 but.....big HP thru a C-4 is gonna need to be in great shape or be beefed-up. 4L-60"type" tranny with OD will give you the best of both worlds. Why have a "tricked-out/souped-up/eye-candy" pick'em-up truck if you can't show it off at all the local shows?! 6sally6
Man is that really called for ? I’m on the newbie’s side here . I’ll offer help anyway I can . If your post gets banned , PM me , again I’ll help you anyway I can . Damn it man , none of us know everything and has not ask for help , if you can stand up and say you haven’t ask for help , I’ll kiss your entire Sailor Azz and give you 20 minutes to draw a crowd to watch ! Sorry, to rant but damn he is just askin for some help .
I am surprised that the Ford engines from 63 and on get no respect when the Chevys from 67 and on do. Don't get it? I am going to do a 66 289 bored out, with a cam, set of alum heads, and a good intake, and a set of headers. Its going in a 1954 Metropolitan Convertible and I really don't give a shit if folks have a problem with that. Sheesh. The guy is just asking for help. Why not just help him?
You will be hard pressed to get that amount of horsepower out of a '68 302 (first year) which may not be a 302 Ford used up some 289 parts in the newer 302 blocks old Henry was a frugal guy back then. You can learn a ton checking out this site www.sbftech.com The biggest drawback with a 302 build is the heads they just do not make power but check out this info on heads http://www.mre-books.com/interchange/index.html Since you are swapping into a truck the extra cubes and torque of a 351 would be a nice upgrade.
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