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Clayborne Engine Stands

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by carmuts, Sep 24, 2012.

  1. carmuts
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    About 25 years ago while I was still in High School I bought a Clayborne engine stand at an auction. It seemed to be a specific purpose engine stand. I took it home and reworked it to fit Model A engines specificly. When I bought an AC&R engine stand adaptor and a modern engine stand I stored it away out at the farm. I am considering modifying it again for flathead engines, but first would like to know what its original purpose was. Does anyone have an old Clayborne Catalog that would list this stand? It is a Model 14411. I will post pic's later today, my camera does not like cool mornings. Thanks Rod
     
  2. Willy301
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    Did you google it? Even when companies pre dated the internet, some of their archives made it to the net, even if it was because another guy had one and posted the info.
     
  3. carmuts
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    Yes I searched it and all I came up with was model 900's and links to irrelevant e-bay listings. I searched it here also and the pic was missing from the only one really discussed, no mention of what model # it was. Rod
     
  4. carmuts
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    Pic's of the stand. Rod
     

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  5. 29AVEE8
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    I have seen many stands very much like the one you have. We had one in auto shop at Yucaipa High in the late sixties, don't know if it was a Clayborne. Page 54, February 1970 R&C shows Nellie Taylor wrenching on Bud Bryan's 59A on just such a stand. I seem to remember running across plans or a kit to recreate one somewhere on the net.
     
  6. carmuts
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    Thanks, I will see if I can locate a Febuary 1970 R&C magaizine. I would like to see about where they bolted it up in relation to the axis of the stand to keep the CG stable with or without the heads on. Rod
     
  7. Bruce Lancaster
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    I love my Clayborne FH stand...
    I have here concealed under my desk at work a WWII Ford book on running an engine rebuilding plant...the plant shown use dozens of the things moving engines from station to station with tracks to guide the rows of sideways Claybornes...boring and valve work, and eveything else from dis***emble to re***emble, are done right on the stands.
    In back...the pivot is installed so top of the pivot tube is even with top of bellhousing.
    In front, the big ring is centered on the cam so cam can go right through for R&R.
    Front ring has tabs that bolt to the 1932 mount holes, rear plate is a crescent matching bellhousing bolts...'32-48 plate and '49-53 are just about the same except for longer tubes at the bolts to make up for shorter block on the late engines. Effectively the cam is the center of everything.
    (the long bolt tubes at rear and ring at front allow enough access so everything can be reacehed with motor on stand. Onliest thing I don't like is that you really need some lateral bracing if you have a serious fight with valve bar and stuck guides so you don't tip the whole mess over.)
     
  8. carmuts
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    Thanks Bruce, that is a good starting point. Will bring my stripped down LB block into the shop as it is lighter and go from there. The mounting points at the back should be the same as the 37 21 stud. I might have to measure to see which if any of the LB's lower water inlet holes match the waterpump holes in the 37. Looks like more things to make. Rod
     
  9. 29AVEE8
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    Rod.

    Try This.

    Mike.

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  10. Bruce Lancaster
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    You don't need to match pump holes...the holes used are the pair immediately on each side of timing cover which held the engine mounts in 1932 but which are there in all early flatheads. Ford kept'em, I think both for interchange and because they offered some nenefit in ***embly line handling perhaps. On some late FH, only 2 or 3 are drilled and tapped but the space is there to complete the set.
    On vehicles they were only used on FIRST and LAST flatheads...1932 (and a few '33), and then on 1952 truck!
    Clayborne has four holes up there but fits to only 2 (I think the upper?) of the block holes. Probably the other 2 fit 60...
     
  11. KR500
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    Your Clayborne engine stand is a number 100. The adapters presently on your stand are for the Plymouth and Dodge straight 6 cylinder engines. There are more than 15 different adapters that were produced for that stand. A very popular stand used by the Ford flathead rebuilders.
     
  12. big duece
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    Any info on this Clayborne stand? thumbnail - 2019-04-30T211444.208.jpg
     
  13. Bruce Lancaster
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    It is the remainder of something factory produce...it has simpler pivots that COULD still take adapters for use similar to the Clayborne, but the rails allow engines to be put on sideways with just bolts into pan rails.
    1930's engine stands must have driven shops crazy. The available selection of engines in 1939 ran from flat two Cylinder Crosley to V-16 Cadillac!
     
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  14. KR500
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    This stand is a #200. It also could be furnished with various adapters. It was designed for engines up to 600 lbs. There is also a #300 which would handle up to 1000 lb. engines. It was a stand which could be extended in or out on width from about 16 inches to about 30.
     

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