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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by mcmopar, Jun 4, 2019.

  1. mcmopar
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    Its tume to put a different motor and my new tremec tko 600 in my truck. When i drained the radiator it was black. I only put water in it. I see the oil or gas rainbow, but would this be head gasket or cracked block? No water in oil 20190604_171027.jpeg

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  2. tiredford
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    you probably know this, any water will be in the bottom of that pan. Just saying
     
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  3. squirrel
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    After you magnaflux the parts, and examine the head gaskets, you'll know for sure. We can only guess.
     
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  4. pitman
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    Let us know what shows up, anyplace where oil can migrate, is good to know.
     
  5. Radiator have a trans cooler?
    I see you have a tremec, this is about the radiator
     
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  6. mcmopar
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    Yes on trans cooler but not used it has a ax 15 5 spd already.

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  7. Right as usual, squirrel.
    Ben
     
  8. mcmopar
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  9. mcmopar
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    In the broad picture it doesn't matter where its coming from. I am pulling it because i am ready for the nee setup. It was still running good. Here is the new setup.
     
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  11. tb33anda3rd
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    my house is heated with a closed system water boiler. the water comes out black which is normal. I think it is from no fresh oxygen being introduced into the "rusting" of the boiler. maybe it is something like that?
     
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  12. mcmopar
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    tb33anda3rd, maybe its something like that but there is a rainbow in the water. I have tortured this motor for the last 17000 miles of its life, and it never complained. It has had the lifters floating just about every time I have driven it.

    Beside taking it to a radiator shop, what would be a good way to clean the radiator out. It is a Walker.
    Tony
     
  13. squirrel
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    If it were all still put together, you could run some cooling system flush through it a couple times, and see how it looks.
     
  14. mcmopar
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  15. squirrel
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    I figured as much. Oh well.

    Might go talk to a radiator shop, see what they can do.
     
  16. eaglebeak
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    Aluminum rad?
    Fairly new?
    The oil could be from the manufacturing of.
     
  17. 5window
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    That looks like a fair amount of oil from manufacturing. I expect a good company like Walker flushes their radiators out before shipping.
     
  18. squirrel
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    aluminum radiator? probably tig welded? I hope there wasn't any oil on it during manufacture
     
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  19. The Mullet
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    Maybe a dumb question but was the water distilled? If not, could be from reaction to chlorine, sulfur, etc.

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  20. F-ONE
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    There's no problem that I see..

    When red iron oxide is boiled in water, it turns black.

    Oil and water do not mix. They repel each other. M***ive amounts of oil will suspend in water but not truly mix. Other contamants and air get in there and what you get is a foamy substance that looks like a milkshake.

    All I see is converted rust.

    What does it smell like? A gasoline smell might mean combustion g***es but usually that problem blows water out of the system.

    Since you are going with a new engine, the question is mute. Just flush the radiator out with a hose pipe.
     
  21. mcmopar
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    It is a copper radiator. I did not use distilled water. Nothing milky in the water, and it doesn't smell like gas or oil, just a slight rainbow. It never used water, and never blew it out the exhaust. The reason I used water only is they don't like anti freeze at the drag track. Is there something I can put in the water on new motor so this don't happen again, and for lubrication of the water pump?

    Tony
     
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  22. squirrel
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    sure, Bar's Leak 1311 is such a product, there are others. Might be hard to find in stock at a local store these days...but try a "real" auto parts store
     
  23. The Mullet
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    The distilled water will make everything last a little bit longer. You should definitely consider an additive to prevent rust inside your block

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  24. mcmopar
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    squirrel, thanks I will look for some, and put distilled water in.
    Tony
     
  25. NAES
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    Another random possibility. Does the catch basin for the water pictured share double duty doing oil changes, etc? A little residue would explain the rainbow.

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  26. mcmopar
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    The catch pan was cleaned before I put anything in it. I hate to have dirty pans around shop so when done with one I clean it.
     

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