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  1. TraditionalToolworks
    Joined: Jan 6, 2019
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    Most South Bends have 2 numbers on them, one is the catalog number which is on the gearbox plate. The other is the serial number on the top right hand side of the bed. Both of those numbers will tell you quite a bit about the lathe. You can calculate what year it is by the number and the catalog also tells the model and/or features of the lathe.

    See this page: http://www.wswells.com/sn/sn_index.html
     
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  2. Boneyard51
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    Buzz over to the “ hobby machinist “ forum. They have cats over there that can answer most anything!



    Bones
     
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  3. oldpl8s
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  4. TraditionalToolworks
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    Steve,

    That looks like some of the machines I've seen that Dennis Turk restored. Did you do that yourself?

    Looks like you have a serpentine belt on there. I love those really old SBs...nice looking lathe!:cool:
     
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  5. oldpl8s
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    Steve is the "other" plate guy. This lathe is for sale on Craigslist in Ridgecrest for $1200.
     
  6. TraditionalToolworks
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    Ooops, my bad...sorry for the mixup.

    You should have added that it is for sale on the Ridgecrest craigslist, someone might want a cool old lathe like that here. Has a silent chain drive on it, those are kind of cool.
     
  7. Cool 33
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    This is a shop fabricated band saw using Oakland auto spindles, hubs, and brake drums as the wheels for the blade to run on. I have no idea when it was built or by whom. shop built band saw.JPG Oakland auto hub and drum on old band saw.JPG
     
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  8. TraditionalToolworks
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    That is way cool, but I guess that's why you're Cool 33! ;)
     
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  9. Cool 33
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    Here are some pictures of another shop built band saw in a smaller form. Also some very old drill press and hack saw that were line shaft driven from an old blacksmith shop that I took down a few years back. I used my 33 BB truck to move the sections out. The shop was built using Model T and A frame rails for much of the structural frame work. I just couldn't stand to see it demolished. small shop built bandsaw.JPG line shaft driven drill press.JPG line shaft driven hack saw.JPG 33 July 2006.jpg
     
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  10. Cool 33
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    Pictures of a post hole auger that if my memory is correct bolts onto the back of a Jeep and is pto driven. The other is of a couple of friznoes that would normally be mule drawn, but used them behind a tractor when I was growing up in the 1950-60's post hole auger for Jeep.JPG friznoes.JPG
     
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  11. Boneyard51
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    Most folks won’t even know what a Fresno is! Or used for!



    Bones
     
  12. cretin
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    Do you know if those are the legs that belong with that lathe?
    I have the same ones that I used on my belt sander and I've been wondering what they came from.
     
  13. TraditionalToolworks
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    Cool,

    I love this pic, even got the extra weight on the front hitch!:cool:

    I could use something like that...:rolleyes:
     
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  14. oldpl8s
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    The legs came with a 1930's Atlas lathe I bought. I see the legs going for almost as much as I sold the whole package for
     
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  15. 500caddy
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    [​IMG] picked this up yesterday from what I can see it’s a 1918 perfect made in Ontario Canada



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  17. TraditionalToolworks
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    Looks like you have what you need, is that the counter shaft behind the lathe? Is there a motor? If not you should be able to hook one up pretty easy. Definitely that lathe is more than capable of making car parts.;)
     
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  18. 500caddy
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    The motor is on the other side. Only paid 100.00 for it, should be able do something with it


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  19. Herb Kephart
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    1886 Walter Brothers planer--I've had it since 1954. One just like it is/was in the Ford museum planer 002c.jpg
     
  20. TraditionalToolworks
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    That is a sweet machine. I have a soft spot for planers.:cool:
     
  21. sliceddeuce
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    I have an Index 745 vert. mill and South Bend 13X60 that still wears it`s tag proclaiming it to be property of the Michigan Dept. of Corrections....I named her " Ol` Hard Time'
     
  22. 41 GMC K-18
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    This very cool piece ( the left over guts of a hit or miss engine, the crankshaft and piston welded in place ) was owned by a lady named Sylvia here in Seattle, the company her and her late husband owned, was a machine shop. He used to work on steam locomotives back in the day.

    It was out in the parking lot in a place where it really could not be seen or appreciated, and it sat there for 30 years. She would joke about how some mornings there would be rope or weak broken chain around it as vandals tried often to steal it for the weight, for s**** money. There was a secret that was hidden that prevented it from being stolen.

    You could rock it back and forth but it would not budge, there was something definitely welded to it under the dirt that foiled many would be thieves. Long story short, I approached her about it and wanted to buy it, everybody in the shop just laughed, but with persistence, a year later she sold the property and said, if you want this, come get it before we haul it off for s****.

    I came over and with the help of her forklift, my su****ions were confirmed, there were two steel legs welded to it that were about 5 feet long, and the weight of this unit weighed 497 pounds on the scale, so nobody unless they had a forklift was ever going to get it to budge.
    Its now a cool piece of yard art out in front of our fence ! I named it " Sylvia " in honor of the cool lady that gave it to me.

    So far so good, no one has tried to pick it up ( grin ). The red lenses are not permanent, we redecorate it often with new stuff.

    Here is the latest update on where this cool piece is now residing.
    It now occupys a very cool corner at a very cool place, in a great neighborhood, very close to my good friend @ClarkH house, and he renamed it, Dennis.


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    SYLVIA Install 1.JPG
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    sylvia out front.JPG
     
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  23. TraditionalToolworks
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    I just bought this Nichols Toolroom Miller from a friend. The toolroom model has a wider table and handwheels, but the Nichols Hand Miller was one of the first production machines, which pre-date CNCs. Often they would have pneumatic on each of the axis...The top head is on dovetails so it works out pretty good for broaching, but limited to about 6". By default it uses a lever arm to operate the table X axis, as seen in these pics. The toolroom has the ability to use a half nut with a handwheel on the end of the table (see 6th pic), which has 3 t-slots rather than 1 t-slot as the non-Toolroom model. I have a vertical head that will attach to the front bezel, so will keep one with the vertical head on it and the other setup with the horizontal arbor/spindle.
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  24. TraditionalToolworks
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    I moved this South Bend Heavy 10 up to my new shop a couple of weeks ago. This has metric transposition gears with both Imperial and Metric charges on the lathe. This is a 1958, the same year I was born.;) Has a hardened bed, toolroom model with toggle clutch, large dials, taper attachment, D1-4 spindle, collet rack, et al...

    sb10l-toggle-clutch-lg-dials.jpg sb10l-taper-attachment.jpg sb10l-sparse-tooling.jpg sb10l-serial-number.jpg
    sb10l-qcgb.jpg sb10l-motor-plate.jpg sb10l-model-number-stamp.jpg sb10l-metric-transposition-gears.jpg
    sb10l-louis-allis-motor.jpg sb10l-collet-rack.jpg sb10l-d1-4-camlock.jpg
     
  25. TraditionalToolworks
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    One of my biggest machines. This is a Moak 36" vertical woodcutting bandsaw. It's a beast. This is from the '50s. Has carter tires on it. First pic shows how big the saw is, that's a friend of mine that lives up in Yosemite, close to where I bought the saw from. He's standing on a 7-1/2HP motor.

    moak-36-with-randy.jpg moak-36-upper-wheel.jpg moak-36-upper-wheel-hug.jpg moak-36-unloading-from-flatbed.jpg
    moak-36-serial-number.jpg moak-36-motor-tag.jpg moak-36-model-possibly.jpg moak-36-mechanical-brake.jpg
    moak-36-lower-wheel.jpg moak-36-carter-guides.jpg

    This is up at my new shop, sitting on the bandmill cement pad adjacent to the shop.
     
  26. TraditionalToolworks
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    This is up at my new shop now. Not sure how old it is, but believe it is from the 40s. This is an Atlas No 3 12-ton arbor press.

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  27. hotrod428
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    That is a twin to my lathe, Iv'e had for more than 35 years. Iv'e made a lot of parts on it.
     
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  28. Deuces
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    The company I work for bought this one used....
    .....And guess who the original owners were..... 20231004_092239.jpg 20231004_092154.jpg
    :rolleyes::):rolleyes:
    I might swipe that tag off of it....:D:confused::D:D:D
     
  29. Pav8427
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    Heres one I get to play with on occasion.
    10 foot between centers. 27in swing.
    Newest casting date on replaced cover is 1947.
    Spent most of its life in a building in St Paul,Mn used to turn printing rollers for St Paul Pioneer Press.
    Still will hold .003-.004 taper on a long roller. Cost more to ship and set up than it did to buy. Think we got it for $1000 IMG_2594.jpeg
     
  30. TraditionalToolworks
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    Heavy 10 is a great lathe, with a short headstock to chamber barrels through the headstock. I have most of the accessories for it, including a bed turret, lever cross slide, etc...I have a bigger Rivet lathe from the 60s, but it's not short enough on the headstock to do barrels. It is for actions, using a spider. I just agreed to purchase another Nichols mill. I have one already, but will keep one setup with a vertical head and the other in horizontal. These are very stout machines that take up a lot less space than a Bridgeport. He's keeping the motor, but I have an original Master Gear extra.

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